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Not a fan. If your car was stripped, caged etc it would look good, like a track refugee. If not, it'll looks like a posers car. Same opinion for me as ring stickers on cars that have never been there.

Depends what she wants from the car. There'll be arguments galore, but IMO (and the guy in PC magazine who's run a 197 for several thousand miles, including track days, and confesses to loving the 197), the Trophy is more fun to drive. The 197 is better built, better looking, has better brakes...

So lucky to sell mine when I did, got 6.5k a few months ago, with more than double those miles.

One of the nastiest looking mini's I've seen!

To do with the outside temp sensor I think.

Very much doubt that! Get it changed asap, I'd walk away from a purchase if the mieage on the mot didn't match.

Fred, any issues with noise limits on track days? I think I remember Ysport having to run on reduced revs at tunergp because of the exhaust being too loud.

They are very nice, lad I know had one on a RB, bought in the group buy yrs ago. Well built too.

Sounds good, not too loud.

Tried it once. Wasn't sure how to boil the water.

True. Makin babies is easy.

I used blutak, easier to return to standard

Love it all bar the exhaust.

That price would include hoses and fluid.

Could start a new forum, www.plasticcars.net/forum/

Only tyre I can find on mytyres in that size is http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl

Be fine on 15's, but it will look a bit high, even on Eibachs.

182 has a slight edge in the straights, 197 monsters the braking. Trophy's more fun, for me.

Ok, firstly, they are the published weights, not the measured. From whats been lost, I'm not sure it will be 20kg. Having driven both (I owned a 182cup), a FF182 drives exactly the same. It's not a valid benefit if it has no effect, and it doesn't.

Line up a 182 and a 182cup. There's no difference.

S1's look so much more like a track refugee than the S2's. Looks very nice.

The 182cup was a marketing edition. No significant weight loss, same to drive as a FF with cup packs.

I've owned every variant except the 172cup. The Trophy is the best to drive (by a mile IMO), but priciest. Not much difference 182 v 172, a lot of people forget that when they got a 182 they were comparing a car on old tired dampers (172) to a car on newer suspension. From new, there's not much...

Yep, looks lowered front but not back. Weird.

:oSarcasm filter fail.

Uh, thats why they drive very differently to a 182/172.

Best car i've ever driven (the trophy). Steve took me out in his, sacred me witless. Had bikers getting out of the way lol.

Trophy's are far better to drive than 172/182. No point going for a 182, but a Trophy would be a great upgrade.

Also a few Audi's which is where I imagine this comes from.

Not wanting to lose ride comfort=pro-lines Not fussed with small reduction in ride comfort=sportlines Don't value your spine=Apex