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That's a fair point!

I disagree about the Trophy, massively. It's B-road composure is epic, there really isn't much that'll lose it. I've not driven a cup, but I don't see the point as it's the last RS I'd purchase. I'd even have a 197 over one tbh. And how is the cup the purest in terms of weight? Isn't there...

I'll nip over to smokey-Fred's for a gander.

I think the op needs to drive them all and decide which he prefers. I don't see the point of the cup, as I feel ABS is very useful on a road car. Even Noble has said he'd put it on his new car if they could afford it.

If anyone fancies a match, I'm just going on, warren172

Having to rely on the eeepc at the moment, as the laptop's playing up. How can I set up utorrent, or similar, on it? Had a google, but seems like a foreign language to me!

Is your office in Birmingham??

Sweet. Is it still in Birmingham?

Why? Better stuff out there for similar monies.

Is it finished now?

I think with a decat donnington won't let you on, but everywhere else should be fine. I'm not using a decat though.

FFS it really isn't that bad lol. 20mins with a spanner, washers removed, makes a big difference. Mileage doesn't mean that much. I've seen a sub 25kmiler that I wouldn't touch, then cars on 80k that are spot on mechanically. Take someone with you that knows about them, and check it over well.

Yozza race system. I love mine. Quality is in a different league to the k-tec exhaust I had on previously. Lighter, and better made. Speak to Fred at BTM.

I wrapped the wires in electrical tape, and only reconnected the battery once everything was assembled.

172ph2 would be my choice rather than a 182. Yes the 182 handles slightly better as standard, but most cars you look at will of done 40k+ miles, so the dampers could be refreshed.Spend the money saved buying a 172 on better suspension. And bar RB, the 172 comes in nicer colours imo. And the...

Ph2, would have to be the trophy or vee.

Ooooft. This discussion does not need to happen again lol. Handling I won't go into, only leads to arguments and it's too subjective. The braking ability of the 197 is awesome though!

Is that not quite pricey, given that there are Honda dealers supplying the Tts supercharger for the ctr (337bhp) for £5k? That's fully fitted etc.

What's the all-in, fitted cost for these conversions?

A 10degree drop in temp will lose you about 1psi. So that much is a bit much. Pump them up to normal, then monitor closely.

No, different bolt spacing for 182cup/trophy. 182 (non-cup suspension) has same as 172.

I've not tried the vmaxx, fred said the ones he fitted were decent. Not as good as the bigboys, but decent. I'd still rather have standard than cheap stuff though. Standard is very good IMO, I don't really care about slamming etc.

All of mine are slightly lower than normal when I checked them this week. Assuming it's the weather.

I made this exact change. And regretted it. Don't do it fella, spend a wee bit on the 172. If you get some decent suspension (road biased like h&r, kw v2) you'll have a car that still rides well, but handles better. Keep your original suspension, and coilovers hold their value fairly well...

In that case none of them will work correctly for you!

Think I'd rather have standard bits than cheap coilovers, but good luck to you fella.

Spoiler, colour, black headlight washer blanks, turinis. I used to have 498.

TBH, it's all stuff you should of checked yourself. They are renowned for fubared exhausts!

Another vote for as cheap as poss.

Personally, I'd track it and see what you're not happy with, go from there.