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plus equals old and new then went and sorted another williams and kept another on the road ;)

pe2s..end thread ;)

answering the question would be good. £250 on an engine, 1 f4, one f7. which would be running after the days out on the std mk116v loom and ecu??

Well ok then. We'll go with that. Std Williams f7,standard f4r. Drop them both in the mk1. The std mk1 loom. Now we' re like for like. Which runs? Which doesn't? And that's an easier conversion? And lol at quoting remapped engine figures as std lol

Lol. Your posts speak for themselves. I never claimed 160 for an f7r. Your mistaken. I will say though, the f7r s will produce their quoted 150. The majority will produce more. Whereas the f4rs are very rarely putting out 165. So if your now comparing an average f7 to a good f4 , thats hardly...

Lol. When I get home and on my pc, il be able to post the quotes better.. The last 1 it's all there. An f4r with decat n exhaust will run 175 BHP. Lol. Meaning at least a 10 BHP gain over the standard exhaust and cat on a GOOD f4r pushing 165. Which most don't. Lol

Of course you'd never say this would you? Lol

But here you were on about having to change the flywheel. Nothing else Sayin you had to change the flywheel to run dizzy less ignition. Where in reality you don't And here you were on about the f4. 10+ bhp from exhaust and decat. It's all there. Read it lol

And lol@ 10+BHP from an exhaust and decat. Do you work in marketing? Lol

Above you said you need to change the flywheel to a meg to run a coilpack. This is wrong. You try to get away from that fact. The trigger wheel does away with the need for this. And yes I ran a coilpack and distrubuterless ignition. I never said anywhere that you didn't need to move away from...

And as for which car you got decent gains out of on the std ecu, is your 172

Lol. My Williams ran on bodies, with stand alone ecu. It wasn't the 1st, and won't be the last. It DIDN'T have a none std flywheel on it. So again, you are wrong in that respect. It ran a trigger wheel . Simple as. I await your dismissal of this method. Yaaaaawwwn

because most of the cams are ranged in duration. lift/ramp are usually around about the same from diff suppliers, give or take a few thou lift. which is neither here nor there really. some 260 cams will actually be around 258 degs some are 260 , and likewise some are a couple thou more lift...

just getting a feel for it on the 15s mate lol....the wheels will be going back on the williams when theyve been refurbed ....maybe ;)

mixed the old with the new....feels much better up front now.

yes the car was bought with it on..but it has lasted ME 5 months. the exhaust is circa 12 months old, warranty invalid due to change of ownership. if you read the post correctly in the 1st place rather than trying to read between the lines and spouting s**t sticking up for your mates...

ktec quality...... eh??????

my powerflow has lasted me 10 years.my ktec...errr....less than 5 months....take from that what you will. but then the powerflow was fitted in burnley. which is about the best outlet in the country it seems. pretty much all the old skool quick cars ran them, and from the same outlet...

Try powerflow mate. Theyl make you a s/s one to your requirements. And better quality than the Ktec too in my experience

yes any conversion can be bodged. but any simpletone can swap an engine. the ecu doesnt even need to be changed for the f7p/r conversion to see a gain in power. so because they have the same bore/stroke, the driving characteristics are very similar?? i think not.....in fact i fukkin know not...

Hmmm the f4 powered valvers are renowned for being unreliable. As I said if you read my post properly. The 2 engines, when in comparable state of tune I.e. 260 deg cams in each. The f7 will outperform the f4 every day of the week, and will be a nicer drove to boot. I think most people would...

gotta agree with stromba on this 1 im afraid. in similar spec, i.e 260 ish deg cams etc. the f7r with outperform the f4r every day of the week. my williams es are a far better drive, enginewise, than my trophy. low down torque where you want it. the f4r needs it nads ringing to get the best...

yb racing id just round the corner from me. i bought mine direct from scorpion, but yb being the main supplier?? i didnt have the postage fee as i collected it. quite a few fancy bits n pieces in there ;) . wherever you get it its worth the money over a ktec system an y day of the week

careful with the ktec tho. they fail too.

oi ...less of the old mans car ;)

not a trophy is it??? i saw 1 parked just off park lane the other day, had a private plate on but didnt get the plate tbh. lol. and morrisons in failsworth....had a guy run iinto me there today, pushed me out my parking space into the 1 behind me. old guy hit the acc instead of the brake ...

Re: Clio Valver with williams interior value Not worth a lot mate even with the willy trim. Might be worth more breaking and weighing the shell in.

Think pretty much everyone I went to school with works there. Lol. Maybe should get a mini meet sorted, quite a few from from this area?

In a car park just off park road