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4 would look a bit silly in my opinion, to much like a max power Nova! I would go for an oval on one side bit if you are going for both sides I would go for an oval on each side. Personally I think twin exits each side look naff on anything other than a genuine sports car or a big coupe. The...

Drive an elise, it is great fun! I have / had exactly the same thoughts, the Cup (which is a very sharp, very grippy and overall great car) felt a bit boat like by comparison! That said living with an elise day-to-day will involve some committment and it may cost more to keep on the road if...

Gord R That one looks very nice, though the mileage is a wee bit high... Do you know if it is still available? I cant really buy one until the Cup is sold as we have not got enough space left on the drive and garage! If I bought one well end up with 5 cars at home and one in a garage away from...

Spot on, could not agree more! I have no kids a wife with an A3 turbo, we dont need two hatches as everyday cars. If I had kids the Cup would definetly be staying! twit

Mr Demon I stand completely by what I said, there is no doubt the Elise is quicker to 60 - 80 ish but after that the Clio will catch it fairly quickly. Handling they are different FWD Vs RWD and as everyone knows a good RWD car will normally outhandle a good FWD car. When I bought the Cup I...

Spent the day testing some elises, both S1 and S2 and it confirmed what a fantastic car the elise is! The S2 is much more usable as a everyday car but the S1 is superb, very race car like and just great great fun! Clio content bit... Compared to my Cup I doubt there is much in it pace wise...

Mine were done 6 weeks after i got it, going in agaon soon to be done... Crap really! Twit

Sad news... On the Rugby front I to am a wing, played for a few clubs round Reading and played for the National University in Australia when I was at uni there a couple of seasons ago, that was an experience. Smashed my ankle hugely in a tackle (dislocation, broken bones around it and...

I was / am thinking of this but I have just seen the MPG being achieved... My god! Mine has never ever gone as low as that and that is even after one track day.I normally average about 37 - 38 MPG and if I rag it it may go to 34 - 35... (on the tack it went down to high twenties and the car...

20V turbos are very fast for the cash in a straight line, I would have thought they would beat a 172 BUT.... on average roads with bends etc the 172 would keep up at the worst and I would think a well driven 172 would beat a 20 V turbo. The are nice cars though. As far as I can remember the...

They seem much better than I expected them to be! The logo is big but it suits it. How can we order?? Twit

My wife bought her new car yesterday... An audi A3 Turbo. Very nice car, not as quick as the Cup or 172 but very solid and classy, I liked at. At the same time I played with an R32 Golf as I was offered it. I was very very impressed and Im really thinking of changing my plans (buying a s1...

Sangy Did I see you again about 6ish? Saw a Cup pull out a few behind me so slowed up, I was waiting for you to come alongside but the other car braked a bit early!! I went on towards Wallingford, you off to Abingdon. Ill keep an eye out! Oh yeah, I stuff up 2nd the 3rd quite often!!! Twit

Yep mine too! Mine has been back twice to have this looked at. First they could find nothing wrong, the second time I had the top mount replaced and everything else retightened - this got rid of it for a few days!! It certainly seems to be suspensionish and only happens at low speed when I...

Would be interested in seeing the seats in 172Cups. I am thinking of something along the lines of those in the racing puma. I dont want anything to max power of boyz out but purposeful with taste!!! Twit

I have not got that much cash, Im just irresponsible! My wife no doubt will have something to say! Insurance wont be that bad, Id stick on a limited mile policy (I already have a old landrover on one it can join that) and that will reduce it! Being the wrong side of thirty helps as well...

Hello After ranting about the Cup extras scenerio I vowed to sell the Cup. Whilst I have been sorting the potential replacement I have throwing the Cup around a bit more and wow... It has turned into the car I test drove, certainly seems to have loosened a bit and I am now not going to sell...

yeah but if they aint gonna happen - i have no choice - Our 1600s waranty was voided the day I got it 2 years ago this may and I aint ever needed the warranty anyway! You are probably right. My point on this is not so much about seats etc etc but rather that when Renault sold the car it was on...

Ive already voiced my opinions on this, it is crap. I feel like I was mis-sold the car... Anyway my Cup is going for certain now, I am looking at elises (proper track car) this weekend and hopefully will be able to get shot of the thing ASAP. It was the first and last Renault Ill ever buy...

My cup has been back a few times, and is going back again! All the normal problems plus the clutch seems to be sticking now... As soon as they fix the stuff its going, biggest heap of s*** I ve had the displeasure of owning. An Elise is replacing it... Twit

Dust, go an pretend you want to buy one and just test it, Ive done that a few times with various cars.... Teg Rs are awesomely good if a bit ugly, the handling is incredible as much grip and fun as the Cup, well mine anyway, but none of the torque steeryness of it and the engine and full tilt...

I have driven a Type R and would stand, with my hand on my heart and say the Cup is better, much better Do you mean Civic or integra? Civic yes the cup is better; integra no way. If you have never driven a teg R go and find one - the best FWD car ever bar none and maybe looks aside!! Twit

Ill probably stay Cup... Im just ranting quietly! I know what you mean and I have had the cup on the track and it is very good, a Grale would be nice though! Twit

Im probably a bit fed up with it cos it needs things sorting albeit fairly petty things.... But, I came from owning more sports type cars, I needed a small hatch cos I work in small city surgeries all day and small and nippy is required. I guess Ive been spoilt but the Cup does kind of bore...

Enjoy it! My Cup is going back to renault (again) if they dont sort the problems it is history. I am now really really disappointed with this car. OK it is quick, but not that quick... But oh my god it is dull, I guess I expected more. What renault seem to think is feedback is in fact just...

The noise seems to emanate from the front left of the car...:) Ive got that! Noticed first on a track day now I can induce it on long roundabouts :( Renault build quality is utter poo...

Agree with above... Police are professional witnesses and if it came to a you Vs Police argument you would come second! I think as part of the Access to Justice Act there was a clause that said the prosecution does not have to divulge any information that could compromise the prosecution...

I agree with both leigh and Scudetto on this one! In the import Vs Brit car conflict there will always be a difference whilst the car is newish, it will narrow as the car gets older. look at MX5 v Eunos, that illustrates that quite well. To look at the value argument. I think most people...

End result, its no diff........they just wouldnt bother....if they cant get rid of the clunking noise, why should they bother with the ECU....lol LOL!!! Agreed!!!

What was the lap time for the Cup and the standard 172 then??? 172 = 1.28.85 V6 = 1.28.45 Cup = 1.26.30 Track, bedford Autodrome Driver, Rick pearson, Clio V6 race driver Pretty conclusive really, EVO issue 50. Pearsons comment: would I pay more for a Clio Cup over a standard 172...