1.8 16v in a 1.4 maxim

[mikeedlin]

hi.. i currently bought a 1.4 mk1 sport clio..
i am looking to put a 1.8 16v in it after being forged and running a turbo..
if i get a donar car (1.8 16v) how hard is this of a job to do.. i.e will it fit straight in?
i am a mechanic myself so can do the work just want to no really can a basically swop the front ends over?
cheers mike

 

[.Stevo.C.]

May aswell just buy a valver mate.

 

[Sparky]

Mate sign up to clio16valvers, my mate just did an engine transfer on it I believe his username is craigieb or something...

 

[mikeedlin]

i would bye a valver bud.. but the insurance is a crippler :dapprove:
will sign up see whether he can help me.. cheers lads

 

[Sparky]

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/CraigieB16/EngineIn.jpg
Craig Breward's

 

[.Stevo.C.]

Ah fair enough.

 

[Jimbo-Clio]

be more expensive to insure a transplant turbo than a straight valver mate surely

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Surely the insurance on a car with a new engine is going to be fairly similar to a valver anyway, or if not declared - illegal/fronting etc...?

 

[mikeedlin]

well.. as much as i would love to declare it as i say... we can clearly see thats not going to happen im only 18 :dapprove:

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Firstly, don your flame suit...

Secondly, you might as well not bother paying insurance in that case. It'll be less valid than lbrench's road story threads !!

 

[theduck]

Not decalring an engine transplat is the most idiotic idea this side of the Lusty Clio

 

[Dave..]

Good luck with that. Do hope the insurance company f*cks you over.

 

[mikeedlin]

well a suppose if the i manage to get the insurance low enuff i will obviously declare it... as for the info any on done such a job before?

 

[Sam]

So you blatently admiting your going to put a turbo charged engine, in a car which is ment to have a 1.4. Then your gona fly around in your so called '1.4' then crash in to someone when your insurance will be void cos you didnt tell them your '1.4' is a 1.8 turbo ????

Why???

 

[mikeedlin]

the point of this engine swop is not to drive around and crash like a t**t at all... its what i want to take on for my next project with a mate

 

[mat-nos]

forget it, massive pain in the ass turboing a valver as there is so little space and it gets pretty expensive going low comp...

imo if youve got your heart set on a turbo engine conversion put a 1.7 volvo turbo in it, much better bang for your buck!!!

 

[Dave..]

But you can't drive it if you can't insure it?

 

[theduck]

Nothing wrong with a project mate, but no one is going to help someone who is openly admiting that they are going to insure a 1.8 turbo as a 1.4....

 

[Jimbo-Clio]

volvo lump is the way forward cheapest and quickest transplant and donar volvos are easy to come by
he will proberly be 21 by time hes got it right anyway lol

 

[mikeedlin]

iv heard of thoose volvo lumps? out of the 480 am i rite? havnt really heard of many people doing that tbf!... have been in discussion with engine dynamics concerning engine... probably go all out and forge it rather than low comp.... but that depends..:S

 

[mikeedlin]

i probably wont get round to insuring it.. get it complete before next summer and sell it on for another project... by then ill be 19 so insurance will be slightly cheaper

 

[mikeedlin]

so has any one on here done anything similar to this?

 

[Djw John]

Done a volvo turbo transplant and a straight valver transplant.

Valver is by far the easier one to do but we didnt turbo that. And neither should you.

 

[mikeedlin]

with the valver transplant can you literally take a donar car and swap the front ends?

 

[Djw John]

Yeah, basically. I stripped the 2 cars on the Friday then on the Saturday Djw Dave (who owned teh cars) and my brother an I took both the engines out, swapped them around and had it running again on the Sunday afternoon. If you're a mechanic to trade it shouldnt be an issue. Cos we're not.

 

[mikeedlin]

was that a valver into like a 1.4 1.2 shell? are they the same?

 

[Djw John]

1.4 but they are the same. The difference at the front end between the 1.2/4 and 1.8/2.0 shells are that the slam panel unbolts on the 1.8/2.0 shells.

 

[mikeedlin]

ok cheers mate