172: Clutch pedal feels funny, Clutch only partly disengages -> clutch gone?

[Speedstar]

This morning I was driving to work with my trusty 172 and noticed suddenly on a gearchange from 3rd to 4th gear a little crunch like I didn't press the clutch pedal fully.

After some reseach, it looks like my clutch isn't full disengaging.
The clutch pedal feels a bit funny too. Normally, it is very stiff which is reduced slightly when the clutch is disengaged. Now it feels like it's missing the last part and the movement is slightly shorter.

When the clutch pedal is pressed and in 1st gear, the car moves slowly forward with very little power like the clutch is engaging a slight amount.

This problems aren't there all the time by the way.

Little detail btw, this is very probably the original clutch and the car and this is a picture that I also took this morning on the way to work:

250.000km (155k miles)! This is my daily .

Can anyone clarify this behaviour. I surely hope not to have the clutch changed, since this is an expensive job .

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Also, I noticed that my clutch cable has slack the other way (and the fork also moves), but I can not compare this with anyone, so maybe it's normal. I uploaded a video to show this "issue":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSp65Uh0Kcg

But this might be unrelated .

 

[Speedstar]

Anyone?

 

[edde]

Only 250Km keep going Ive seem some on double this. Well done though just thing how much € that is though.

Check the pedal though that no teeth on the take up mechanism are damged also check the cable is oiled.

At that milage though a clutch is possible.

They do have some give though.

Check you have enough oil in the box.

 

[Speedstar]

There was no real hint on forehand that the clutch was about to give to be honest. Felt like it allways did, right untill the moment this happens.

Will check the pedal and cable .

Never thought I would hit 250kkm when I bought the car (125kkm). When I changed the sparkplugs at 145kkm, I surely thought it was the last time (they last 120kkm). Now I'm going to order some new ones .

Tnx for the reply!

 

[DanielJames]

Are the clio not hydraulic clutch?

 

[Gray]

Are the clio not hydraulic clutch?

no, the 172 / 182 are cable operated.

 

[Speedstar]

Ok the ratched mechanism is fine (to bad).
So that will be a clutch change .

To change the clutch, the gearbox has to be removed I recon. Does the engine need to be removed also?
Maybe someone knows of a guide (here on the forum maybe) which shows a clutch change. Have found one, but that described to take the whole engine out.

This one: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...earbox-change-clutch&highlight=gearbox+change

 

[markfishy]

Does the pedal start from the normal point ,or has it dropped slightly. Get your best friend to press the pedal slowly down, giving exact amounts of movement as they go, ie 5,10, 15, 20 ,mm.
Check at the same time the relevant movement on the clutch fork.
If fork /lever moves at the same time,( it will move different amounts to the pedal), this proves there is no lost movement and the problem is in the clutch. Ask your friend at this moment to turn away to save embarrassment when you start to cry.
regards mark

 

[Speedstar]

In my haynes manual, it says I need to replace the "roll-pins". I have no clue to what those are (language barier maybe). I need to supply the replacement parts for the change, so maybe someone has a partnumber or something?

Regards, Martijn

 

[Speedstar]

In my haynes manual, it says I need to replace the "roll-pins". I have no clue to what those are (language barier maybe). I need to supply the replacement parts for the change, so maybe someone has a partnumber or something?

Regards, Martijn

Found this thread in my favorites.

Just to clarify: It was my clutch .
It was getting worse and worse. On it's last legs byting very hard and sqeeking like crazy (shattered the sliding bearing).

Replaced at my local garage (mitsu evo rally specialist also ) and it took 8 hours of work (at half the price of the dealer:rasp

 

[mgoode180566]

I did mine. Took the engine out to change the clutch and release bearing and did the belts at the same time