172 Very weak at normal revs?

[Ex-User (107751)]

Hi ,
I recently noticed that I was constantly flooring the throttle to keep up with the rest of the traffic if I shift at 3K . I'm talking about normal traffic, no one racing, normal 1.6 engine cars.
It makes me feel maybe my car is weak, but I checked 0-100 kph a few times and I constantly get under 7.5 seconds.
I'm not sure if it's normal, I believe I'm causing excessive wear from flooring it at low RPM every time I accelerate .
Do you guys feel like this too ?

 

[robhoops]

These engines need to be in the higher rev range to get the power out of them. Have you noticed a difference in the lower Rev range recently or has it always been like this. People say that using an rstuner gives it slightly more oomph in the lower rev rangesothis might make your car feel better. Im not an expert on all this, just my opinion

 

[Mr Plums]

They are slow below 5k, this is when the fun arrives.

 

[shaun442k]

You should easily be able to keep up with normal moving traffic below 3k rpm. They have 120+lb ft of torque at this time- plenty for a car weighing a little over a ton.
I suspect you may have an issue.

 

[harry999]

are you on standard exhaust and air filter ?

 

[LeeRS]

Change gear at 7k. You will be in front then

On a serious note, they are just normal cars till you hit 5k. Loads of cars pull away from me but then 5k kick kicks in yo!

 

[ADS_V6]

get it plugged in does not sound right to me matey,i had a similar issue and put new injectors in and dont have th eissue anymore

 

[ADS_V6]

Change gear at 7k. You will be in front then :smile:

On a serious note, they are just normal cars till you hit 5k. Loads of cars pull away from me but then 5k kick kicks in yo!

my 5k kick went with the 98 rs tuner map,lee does yours go to 5k :smile:

 

[LeeRS]

Sort of still kicks. I don't really know, ive sort of got used to it.
Induction kit definatley changes note at 5k. Doing just under 100mph in 3rd so I'm happy with that.

 

[ADS_V6]

yes true my ktec ind kit is crazy at 5000 plus

 

[N4TH4N]

my 5k kick went with the 98 rs tuner map,lee does yours go to 5k :smile:

Mine has always maintained it's lift at 5k.. with the rstuner and piper exhaust

 

[LeeRS]

@N4TH4N come and have a go in mine. I need someone to drive it to put my mind at rest.
Do any of yours bounce you up and down when sitting at traffic lights etc?
The revs don't drop, it just judders.

 

[ADS_V6]

i know when i had my timing checked and redone properly the kick is 95% gone,also my top end feels a lot better

 

[LeeRS]

Btw Alex, that wax you sent me, does it ever run out?
Have been using it for ages now lol, great stuff.

 

[N4TH4N]

@N4TH4N come and have a go in mine. I need someone to drive it to put my mind at rest.
Do any of yours bounce you up and down when sitting at traffic lights etc?
The revs don't drop, it just judders.

Revs up n down when cold but once warm its fine. Im off work Saturday if u want to meet up will happily take yours out for a spin.

Mines not a massive lift just suddenly it wants to urge forward at 5k and sounds lovely.

 

[N4TH4N]

i know when i had my timing checked and redone properly the kick is 95% gone,also my top end feels a lot better

+1 mine was dead after 110 until @MicKPM sorted my timing goes up to 138 on satnav with no issues

 

[LeeRS]

Ok, ive got you number nath.
Might be a late one as I'm doing some work in the garden.

So yours doesn't judder on idle?
Might be my exhaust.

 

[N4TH4N]

Ok, ive got you number nath.
Might be a late one as I'm doing some work in the garden.

So yours doesn't judder on idle?
Might be my exhaust.

I wouldn't say judder @LeeRS . It can at times feel as though it's missing every so often but again once warm its fine.

I had that similar issue when my timing was out. Mick sorted it and was fine. Are you absolutely 100% on the integrity of your timing

 

[LeeRS]

I have always doubted it to be fair. Have spoke to mick and he said to bring it down to check but ive never got the time. I'm off work next week so I might book it in if you don't think its right on Saturday.

 

[N4TH4N]

If you're doubting than it is more than likely out. I kept telling myself it was fine then one day when i lost to an old shape fiesta st i rang mick lol..

It was out, losing power. Well worth the dough to get it sorted out. Massive difference tbh. Not all that far away from us. Its something daft like 7o quid to check it and put your mind at ease. So glad i did. @LeeRS

 

[ADS_V6]

Btw Alex, that wax you sent me, does it ever run out?
Have been using it for ages now lol, great stuff.

That was obsession wax show wax i belive top wax that mate glad you like it,to the op i would get the car checked out put your mind at rest if you think its not performing as good

 

[N4TH4N]

Its easy to say yea it does 7 secs to 60 or 95 in third gear. Don't mean s**t. I thought all this until mick took a look. Goes to show. @LeeRS we be better putting our cars against each other to see how yrs performs tbh

 

[ADS_V6]

if i wasnt so far away id join in lol

 

[LeeRS]

Bur what if I beat you? Hahaha.
£70 to sort it?
How far is notts? I'm taking it.

 

[N4TH4N]

Bur what if I beat you? Hahaha.
£70 to sort it?
How far is notts? I'm taking it.

If you beat me then the 182 goes back to mick lol.

70 just to check etc with replacing cam seals. If all is well then that's it.

If it needs doing i think mick charged me a further 70 to 80 to adjust as it's quite time consuming. I must of been with mick 3 hrs

 

[LeeRS]

Ok, sound. Will have to save a few pennies then.
Can they be timed up even with the belts doing about 3k since being changed?

 

[N4TH4N]

Ok, sound. Will have to save a few pennies then.
Can they be timed up even with the belts doing about 3k since being changed?

Yea course mate. Mine weren't long done
Makes no difference. Who did yours btw

 

[N4TH4N]

if i wasnt so far away id join in lol

Cardiff aint all that far you pussy

 

[ADS_V6]

look lee knows this lol if the cup turned up,it would asta la vista
Good luck with getting it sorted lee maybe your exhaust is leaking hence revs up and down

 

[LeeRS]

S J Auto Renault Specialists by my house.
They have RS's there all the time.
I know that counts for jack bit you would like to think they know what they are doing.

 

[N4TH4N]

S J Auto Renault Specialists by my house.
They have RS's there all the time.
I know that counts for jack bit you would like to think they know what they are doing.

Mate means diddly s**t.

Bought the 182 from a well known Renault "specialist". Four ashes Renault close to me. Timing still out after they did cambelt.

Bet you a pound to a penny its out.

 

[ADS_V6]

i read your other post on sometimes car feels slow,yes i agree there is something with these cars,sometimes mine feels quick other times it doesnt,ive changed everything bar fuel pump,a specialist did tell me the fuel pumps do play up esp on the cups

 

[ADS_V6]

lee im sending you these up goodnight
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008FI7ZRA/?tag=cliospnet01-21

 

[LeeRS]

I will just take it to mick and get it all sorted out.
At least its running and feels quick for the time being
Backbox being changed tomorrow as well for a nice stealth. New tyres next Wednesday.
Will have to do a proper meet soon.

You going to css?

 

[N4TH4N]

i read your other post on sometimes car feels slow,yes i agree there is something with these cars,sometimes mine feels quick other times it doesnt,ive changed everything bar fuel pump,a specialist did tell me the fuel pumps do play up esp on the cups

I think all cars feel quick one day as opposed to the next. I had a 180 bhp mg zr diesel. I swore it had issues as some days it boosted great and others not so. I think its mind over matter mostly. But i do believe lee's timing will be out

 

[N4TH4N]

lee im sending you these up goodnight
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008FI7ZRA/?tag=cliospnet01-21

Piss taker, lol

 

[Ex-User (107751)]

standard exhaust, no cat and no resonator (middle box), cone filter. Changed to the stock airbox and measured acceleration times , got the same times with both (40-120 kph in third) .
any chance someone could upload a video, even just an audio, showing full throttle acceleration, shifting at 3K through all gears? So I can compare.
I honestly feel like I'm racing normal traffic if I shift at 3K.

 

[N4TH4N]

standard exhaust, no cat and no resonator (middle box), cone filter. Changed to the stock airbox and measured acceleration times , got the same times with both (40-120 kph in third) .
any chance someone could upload a video, even just an audio, showing full throttle acceleration, shifting at 3K through all gears? So I can compare.
I honestly feel like I'm racing normal traffic if I shift at 3K.

Something certainly not right. No point in comparing. Get it plugged in.

 

[Ex-User (107751)]

checked for fault codes , there are none.

 

[N4TH4N]

checked for fault codes , there are none.

Using what? A cheap reader or a proper diagnostic (clip)