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no worrys mate quick little car but the clio is quicker i had a mess around with one in my rs1 and its only got a panel filter and exaust and i upset him ha ha
I reckon probably 190 bhp with those mods which isn't too shabby. I hope she doesn't tune the cooper slol
Fella i was over 190 without cams!
Mk4 .:R32
I reckon probably 190 bhp with those mods which isn't too shabby. I hope she doesn't tune the cooper s
Fella i was over 190 without cams!
Honestly? So I should have around 200bhp when I've sorted those mods.
Thats alright!
You would whip even the revised Cooper S from 2004 which has 170 bhp. (supercharged still) I dont know if you have ever driven one but they are very tame. It gives good power delivery but its only like half the 5k kick of the renault engines but all the way through its powerband. A tuned up one, even with just a remap is a different matter though.... Its on a par with my 197, but it the mini keeps going after 125...... I should imagine with your mods it would be a lot quicker than a 197 so you might stand a chance against a modded mini. I speak from experience.
i would hope ur car has cams also. or u wouldnt be going any where
Very good.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
i destroyed one in my old Ph1 172
never had a play with one in the 182
never had a play with one in the 182
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
aye.
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bought on credit by blonde 22 year old marketing girls.
I think the thread got lost, he was quizzing std mini v modded clio. I suppose it comes down to individual drivers, tyres the minis run on, spec of the mini (they get very heavy with all the extras) we can only speak of our experiences. I think it wouldbe fair to summarise a modded clio would be better on twisties and straight roads up to a certain speed. If they mod the mini, no chance
The supercharged one. We both think the turbo looks ghey!!
Yeah one of my mates took his cooper s to GTT and spent about 1000, and now has 229 horses
I think the cooper s sounds gash standard though, I hate the noise of the supercharger.
Turbo (R56) has certainly been given some mixed reactions
Love the supercharger whine (enhanced even more with an Alta CAI)...think its a bit like marmite...love it or hate it.
Mates S with Alta and Magnaflow exhaust (excuse someones dodgy laugh
).....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNmW9sBIj1U
Can see this being expensive if your both competative about who has the most power and quickest car
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i've had a tussle with a cooper s and wiped the floor with it. and mines standard. mind you if its a mini cooper s works then your in trouble.
Ive posed this question on here and owners who went up against 197's have stated there wasnt anything in it out on the open road.I personally thought my old 172 was quicker,but then I also thought it was quicker than the 225TT i replaced it with, but it wasnt, by a fair bit. My 197 is now on nearly 3k, running it religiously on 99RON keeping an eye on tyre pressures, and its starting to feel as quick as the 172 did. Its just keeping it in the power band.The 197 is quicker than a std 170 cooper S (tested) but as Im sure owners will tell you because of its size,quietness, lack of torque it just doesnt feel fast,until you look at the speedo
Mk4 .:R32
Torque figures always play a massive part in how a car "feels" quicker. My mate has an astra SRI turbo which feels faster than my 172, but in reality they are the same 0-60
From what I've heard I should have 195 bhp + with the cams etc which is good and would beat a std cooper s with ease.
From what I've heard I should have 195 bhp + with the cams etc which is good and would beat a std cooper s with ease.
yes mate I agree,its like driving a vw with the 130 diesel engine.You think "f**k me thats quick" but you look at the speedo and you aint moving. Its all the torque.Im considering an RS remap to add that bit more low down,then it might just feel that bit quicker. The cooper S is a prime example of that again. Lotsof torque, silly whine,but just aint quick
My mums got a cooper s and was behind my step dad who was drivin it the other wk n he was desperatly tryin to loose me in my standard ph2 172 but no chance i was having to back of a bit when coming out of roundabouts. Would say that at higher speeds the cooper has got more left to give. Have to admit the cooper s does sound better as well, really nice deep tone from the exhaust, pops as well when backing off or cruising through town.
Each to there own on the supercharger whine, I actually prefer it to the same old 4 cyl N/A induction roar (not that there is anything wrong with N/A)
Id certainly say that 172, 182, 197 also "aint quick" if the Cooper S (supercharged or Turbo) "aint quick" when performance wise they are all quite closely matched. Personally I like them all in there own ways
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Hey not trying to have a go mate, just thought that "aint quick" was a bit harsh, differnt opnions/expieriances I guess.
The 172/182 is a lil bit quicker than the 163/170 Cooper S, any run ins Ive ever had its always been pretty evenly matched.
Was the S you tested the 197 against one of the supercharged ones?
Be interesting to put them all on an airfield 172/cup 182/cup/Trophy 197 -163 Cooper S - 170 Cooper S - 200 S Works - 210 S Works - 175 S (Turbo) and the soon to be 192 S Works ... anyway back to reality how are you finding the 197 in comparisson to the 172?
The 172/182 is a lil bit quicker than the 163/170 Cooper S, any run ins Ive ever had its always been pretty evenly matched.
Was the S you tested the 197 against one of the supercharged ones?
Be interesting to put them all on an airfield 172/cup 182/cup/Trophy 197 -163 Cooper S - 170 Cooper S - 200 S Works - 210 S Works - 175 S (Turbo) and the soon to be 192 S Works ... anyway
back to reality how are you finding the 197 in comparisson to the 172?I apologise for being snappy... the Cooper S I refer to is a 170 Supercharged. The problem with my change from 172 to 197 was that there was a 225 TT in the middle for 8 months! I kind of got used to quality with the TT, so I do feel that I have gained in quality with the 197, better materials, quieter, bigger etc, but it doesnt feel as quick, however I do think it is as quick when you actually take notice of the speedo, and think back to certain roads I used to use in my 172. However my 197 is starting with a few niggly faults, just wish I could take it to audi to let them look at it. That line up you mentioned sounds excellent. My money would be on the new 192 Turbo Cooper S I think
Yep the Mini's have there fair share of niggles too...theres also a 230-240 S works on the way...am sure Renault will pull something else out of the bag in the not so distant future too
Anyway..best not hijack the thread ....but I would defo say the tuned 172 would be quicker than the standard S
Anyway..best not hijack the thread
....but I would defo say the tuned 172 would be quicker than the standard S I raced my mates standard cooper s and i have a standard 182, me and my passenger are 14st each, my mate in the cooper s is 11st, both had 1/4 tank of fuel and straight line drag from 10mph rolling in 2nd the clio pulled constantly in every gear away from the cooper s, reckon i was 1 car length at end of 2nd gear, couple more at end of 3rd. I was shifting about 6500rpm.
Yep the Mini's have there fair share of niggles too...theres also a 230-240 S works on the way...am sure Renault will pull something else out of the bag in the not so distant future too
Anyway..best not hijack the thread
make that 212bhp for the new S works when its launched..240 was a bit optomistic
....although its only 2bhp more than the outgoing supercharged works im sure it will be a fair bit quicker as the new standard turbo S is almost as quick as the old works. 
