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Matt e
ClioSport Club Member
Is that not the one that was on fifth gear?
The one on 5th Gear was Tony Hunter's.
Both of the cars were supplied by Renault, the one in the review was the media slag given to journalists to abuse,
the one that went round the track was a tuned up model from the factory, all car companies have a special one they use for TG lap times.
the one that went round the track was a tuned up model from the factory, all car companies have a special one they use for TG lap times.
Clarkson said something yesterday about Mclaren will only let their new car(P1) a round track,(not the top gear track)if all the cars are standard road cars, that has been sold already,Ferrari will only do it,if the car comes direct from the factory(so they can fiddle with it ..) if any one lets top gear borrow a LaFerrari ,they make sure they can never buy a special addition Ferrari again) so your right they do tune them up.. Ferrari are scared of getting beat...
They can use the engine that dyno'd with the highest bhp.
182cup & 172 racecar
Yes indeed, and it was all fixed. Good day out though.
I did laugh when you said they left the script in the car and it said the 182 lost the head to head,
which was typed before you'd even shown up. lol
which was typed before you'd even shown up. lol
172 track thingy
What did they do tony?
So the engine that produced 175bhp then! :smile:
Yeah, rather than the one that made 168bhp.
Ol’ Tarby
ClioSport Moderator
Clio 220 Trophy
Lol is that true??
Oh yes, not good for your future relations with a major car manufacturer
if you're head to head test shows the all new singing and dancing RS Clio isn't as fast as the cut price tin bucket it replaces.
if you're head to head test shows the all new singing and dancing RS Clio isn't as fast as the cut price tin bucket it replaces.
182cup & 172 racecar
It's all true.
But it's all in the past now, so who cares.
But it's all in the past now, so who cares.
That's what the script said, the reality was somewhat different.
182cup & 172 racecar
Haha that is comedy gold. Didn't tiff also lift off to oversteer to post a slower time too?
182cup & 172 racecar
It was Jason who drove it.
Was it portrayed as tiff on the tv? Sorry don't remember exactly.
That might have been the 182 vs CTR iirc where Tiff oversteers it on the last corner on purpose iirc, consequently loosing the head to head lap time.
Nah they didn't. Jeremy has tested one though! He wrote an article about it when they were released. He liked it.
Spot on sir! My mistake got them muddled up.
They must be getting brown envelopes all over the place.
If a manufacturer decides to make the newer performance car slower either in straight line or handling performance, or both, then they must suffer the loss of sales due to the public knowing from reviews. Imo them doing so is kind of ripping customers off. At best letting them down.
182
In my book that's false advertising. TG and 5G should be ashamed of themselves really- especially the BBC! Who do you trust then? No one! Ha
MarcB
ClioSport Club Member
182 Trophy & 197 F1
Clarkson's Write Up -
"Another simple idea is the Renault Clio Trophy that I’ve been driving this past week. What we have here is a small three-door hatchback fitted with a large engine. And er . . . that’s it. In most hot hatchbacks these days the extra power afforded by the big engine is wasted lugging around all the luxury and computer equipment that the Milton Keynes flip-chart salarymen think we all want.
Not on the Clio it isn’t. Instead of overly complicated climate control you get simple air-conditioning, and that, on the luxury front, really is the end of the story. Unless you count the weirdest cruise control I’ve ever found.
Like any other cruise system, you can choose a speed and the car will stick to that unless you turn it off, brake or accelerate. But unlike any other system I’ve encountered, there’s another facility that lets you choose the top speed of the car. Select 70 and it becomes impossible to go faster. The engine just won’t let you.
I had enormous fun with this, driving from one side of Birmingham to the other with it set on 30. You’d be staggered how much of a nuisance you can be if you are physically prevented from breaking the speed limit. I was given the finger maybe half a dozen times. Even more than usual, the Brummies were delighted when I got on the M42 and went back to Britain.
Here, I turned off the Clio’s only techno feature and just used it as a car. And it was great. The 182bhp 2 litre engine pulls with planetary torque from low revs and sings power ballads at the top end, but the car’s real party piece is its handling. It seems to go round any corner at whatever speed takes your fancy.
There is traction control but it’s the laziest, most ineffectual system in the world, not bothering to get off its fat arse once in a whole week of road rocketry. I got the impression after a while it was just a button on the dash, connected to nothing at all. And that’s a good thing. It meant I was in charge.
And boy, was I having a laugh. I loved the big, comfortable and hugely supportive seats, I loved the speed, but my most abiding memory is the way this little race-bred car arcs round corners like a mono waterskier on a millpond. I also loved the way that, when all is said and done, the Trophy is just a Clio, same easy-to-mend parts, same practicality and the same value. It’s only £15,500, for heaven’s sake.
There are only two things wrong. First, it has a very hard ride, and second, the Clio Trophy was a last hoorah before the new Clio came along. You are therefore hard pressed to find one. But if you can, go ahead and buy it. It’s a very human car in a very complicated world. Vital statistics
Model Renaultsport Clio Trophy
Engine 1998cc, four cylinders
Power 182bhp @ 6500rpm
Torque 147 lb ft @ 5250rpm
Transmission Five-speed manual
Fuel 34.9mpg
CO2 194g/km
Acceleration 0-62: 6.9sec
Top speed 139mph
Price £15,500"
Rating 4/5
Verdict Proof that keeping it simple is best
"Another simple idea is the Renault Clio Trophy that I’ve been driving this past week. What we have here is a small three-door hatchback fitted with a large engine. And er . . . that’s it. In most hot hatchbacks these days the extra power afforded by the big engine is wasted lugging around all the luxury and computer equipment that the Milton Keynes flip-chart salarymen think we all want.
Not on the Clio it isn’t. Instead of overly complicated climate control you get simple air-conditioning, and that, on the luxury front, really is the end of the story. Unless you count the weirdest cruise control I’ve ever found.
Like any other cruise system, you can choose a speed and the car will stick to that unless you turn it off, brake or accelerate. But unlike any other system I’ve encountered, there’s another facility that lets you choose the top speed of the car. Select 70 and it becomes impossible to go faster. The engine just won’t let you.
I had enormous fun with this, driving from one side of Birmingham to the other with it set on 30. You’d be staggered how much of a nuisance you can be if you are physically prevented from breaking the speed limit. I was given the finger maybe half a dozen times. Even more than usual, the Brummies were delighted when I got on the M42 and went back to Britain.
Here, I turned off the Clio’s only techno feature and just used it as a car. And it was great. The 182bhp 2 litre engine pulls with planetary torque from low revs and sings power ballads at the top end, but the car’s real party piece is its handling. It seems to go round any corner at whatever speed takes your fancy.
There is traction control but it’s the laziest, most ineffectual system in the world, not bothering to get off its fat arse once in a whole week of road rocketry. I got the impression after a while it was just a button on the dash, connected to nothing at all. And that’s a good thing. It meant I was in charge.
And boy, was I having a laugh. I loved the big, comfortable and hugely supportive seats, I loved the speed, but my most abiding memory is the way this little race-bred car arcs round corners like a mono waterskier on a millpond. I also loved the way that, when all is said and done, the Trophy is just a Clio, same easy-to-mend parts, same practicality and the same value. It’s only £15,500, for heaven’s sake.
There are only two things wrong. First, it has a very hard ride, and second, the Clio Trophy was a last hoorah before the new Clio came along. You are therefore hard pressed to find one. But if you can, go ahead and buy it. It’s a very human car in a very complicated world. Vital statistics
Model Renaultsport Clio Trophy
Engine 1998cc, four cylinders
Power 182bhp @ 6500rpm
Torque 147 lb ft @ 5250rpm
Transmission Five-speed manual
Fuel 34.9mpg
CO2 194g/km
Acceleration 0-62: 6.9sec
Top speed 139mph
Price £15,500"
Rating 4/5
Verdict Proof that keeping it simple is best
Jeremy Plato lied.
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
If you present a car related 'entertainment' programme, you're automatically a c**t iirc.
