Quote: Originally posted by welsh182 on 06 April 2004
Did 130 on a special private road on Sunday. Very impressed with the acceleration between 100 to 130. Also was very surprised to see 100 on another stretch of road around a fair curve (deserted and good visibility for a long distance). Did not feel like 100 at all, very composed. Hence my theory below.
This is going to be contentious but, its got be as fast as a cup!!
I have driven all three 172, cup and my 182. The cup certainly felt the most lively with the front end sliding wide under power off roundabouts etc and spinning up giving the impression of more power, but the 182 has ESP and therefore does not understeer or spin up a lot (if at all) and so does not seem as exiting. The cup is also got less sound deadening material and less equipment and therefore is a far more raw experience. The 182 seems to insulate the driver from the exitement more. Just my opinion is this, I do not want to start a slanging match. The only real test is going to be side by side 1/4 mile and track day etc.
I have a modded MK2 Golf with a genuine 200bhp & Quaife LSD. This has done 15.11 1/4 mile and should therefore be similar in performance to the 182 if not a fraction slower. The Golf seems a lot more aggressive and faster than my 182 for similar reasons IMO to the Cup.
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How is it contentious? Of course they are going to have similar performance, just as some 172 will stay with a 182 and some 182s will be faster than some Cups and some Cups faster than 182s etc etc. Ive been in/raced enough 172s to know there is a big difference between specific cars. Just glad I got a goodun
Quote: Originally posted by welsh182 on 06 April 2004
Did 130 on a special private road on Sunday. Very impressed with the acceleration between 100 to 130. Also was very surprised to see 100 on another stretch of road around a fair curve (deserted and good visibility for a long distance). Did not feel like 100 at all, very composed. Hence my theory below.
This is going to be contentious but, its got be as fast as a cup!!
I have driven all three 172, cup and my 182. The cup certainly felt the most lively with the front end sliding wide under power off roundabouts etc and spinning up giving the impression of more power, but the 182 has ESP and therefore does not understeer or spin up a lot (if at all) and so does not seem as exiting.
The Williams has NO ESP and does not understeer. Not my two examples anyway. And the particulatly nice engine means that spinning out of a corner is not a problem as you can pull out in a higher gear and that acts like a nice traction control.
The cup is also got less sound deadening material and less equipment and therefore is a far more raw experience. The 182 seems to insulate the driver from the exitement more. Just my opinion is this, I do not want to start a slanging match. The only real test is going to be side by side 1/4 mile and track day etc.
I have a modded MK2 Golf with a genuine 200bhp & Quaife LSD. This has done 15.11 1/4 mile and should therefore be similar in performance to the 182 if not a fraction slower. The Golf seems a lot more aggressive and faster than my 182 for similar reasons IMO to the Cup.
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I did - but I changed it for the CTR.Quote: Originally posted by Neil82cup on 06 April 2004
I agree, if I had to use my car for business or had to travel a big distance to get to work I would not have bought a Cup.