yeah a few times and tbh the old S4's dont exactly set the world alight and i highly doubt that was a VTS drivne to it's full petential. i've raced an S4 in my breathing modded 106 GTi and it wasn't as far ahead as you would expect. the S4 in that vid definately isnt standard
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exactly. do you know the driver of the VTS?
an old S4 is 15.5 secs to 100mph. thats cammed VTS pace and the VTS doesnt have 4wd to get it launched so from rolling a 160bhp VTS would have the edge over an old S4 like that one. and theres no way a cammed VTS would leave a standard VTS by that far. see what i mean?
an old S4 is 15.5 secs to 100mph. thats cammed VTS pace and the VTS doesnt have 4wd to get it launched so from rolling a 160bhp VTS would have the edge over an old S4 like that one. and theres no way a cammed VTS would leave a standard VTS by that far. see what i mean?
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yeah hes a mate of mine.
but that s4 is 5.7 secs to 60 and the saxo is only about 7.5 to 60 (both standard times). so obviously its going to rape it but i kinda get what you mean but a cammed vts is not going to get 160bhp ... throttle bodies yes but not cams. the guy in the saxo kept saying the s4 was tuned lol.
but that s4 is 5.7 secs to 60 and the saxo is only about 7.5 to 60 (both standard times). so obviously its going to rape it but i kinda get what you mean but a cammed vts is not going to get 160bhp ... throttle bodies yes but not cams. the guy in the saxo kept saying the s4 was tuned lol.
no they do not obviously! all gti/VTS put out around the 130bhp mark standard which is common knowledge. enclosed filter, manifold and exhaust and they respond really well. takes most to the 135-140bhp mark. then a decent set of cams and a custom live map by wayne schofield sees them upto around 155-160bhp. it's not all about the peak power either on these. he maps them for good midrange pull. when my mates was mapped wayne said "do you want a pub figure or do you want your car to be fast?" basically he offered him a peak of 142bhp @ the wheels but crap mid range, or 139bhp @ the wheels but a stronger mid range. very underestimated when cammed and mapped properly and will catch alot of people out. a good example will put about 4-5 lengths on a cup/CTR to 100mph
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Must say there is some comedy comments in this thread:rasp:
Escpecially someone saying they have extra power at 4.5k on the second cam - someone clearly hasnt got a clue about engines there
Anyway - yeh i must admit the vts is a fast little car, in standard form i found that my 172 leaves my mates vts behind. I can imagine that after a good remap, and induction and exhaust mods they would push not far off 145bhp. Which for a car that small is very good!
I did a 1/4 mile race agaisnt one when i had my 2ltr corsa running 165bhp, the saxo had cams, headwork, remap, exhaust etc
I ran a 15.1 and he ran a 15.2, he did a few runs and they were all about the same.
But this again boils down to the driver, if someone knows where in the range the power is, where it drops off then they will be very fast.
I do however find it mad that he could make that much ground on you and pass you at such a speed. He must have internal work i would presume or i will eat my hat if they really can be that fast with those mods, considering the ones i have played with.
Escpecially someone saying they have extra power at 4.5k on the second cam - someone clearly hasnt got a clue about engines there
Anyway - yeh i must admit the vts is a fast little car, in standard form i found that my 172 leaves my mates vts behind. I can imagine that after a good remap, and induction and exhaust mods they would push not far off 145bhp. Which for a car that small is very good!
I did a 1/4 mile race agaisnt one when i had my 2ltr corsa running 165bhp, the saxo had cams, headwork, remap, exhaust etc
I ran a 15.1 and he ran a 15.2, he did a few runs and they were all about the same.
But this again boils down to the driver, if someone knows where in the range the power is, where it drops off then they will be very fast.
I do however find it mad that he could make that much ground on you and pass you at such a speed. He must have internal work i would presume or i will eat my hat if they really can be that fast with those mods, considering the ones i have played with.
Notorious said:
yep your right. i was about 2 lenghts ahead of every CTR i raced at pod and that was before cams! i will be disappointed if im not 3-4 lengths on them by the end of 1/4 mile after my re-map. bear in mind i can do a 2.00 60ft which sees them off pretty well instantly.
brad - 15.2 is shocking for a cammed VTS! my 106 gti was doing 15.0 flat all day with just an air filter! also brad i had the same thing happen to me in windsor. vts up my arse, i gave it some and at 120 bananas he was sat right on my bumper! turned out he had a 75bhp shot of nos
so you never know.
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Nick s - yeh thats true i know about 4/5 saxos locally that run nitrous on a progressive controller.
It depends on the venue mate, mine was done at a speed trial event where they do the likes of rod tarrys sierra cosworth.
I never got to run at the pod as it always pissed it down when i got there!
It depends on the venue mate, mine was done at a speed trial event where they do the likes of rod tarrys sierra cosworth.
I never got to run at the pod as it always pissed it down when i got there!
true brad - apparantly pod is very unforgiving on times though and the like sof crail read quicker etc. onyl really a fair comparison if times were done at the same place same day.
have you seen rod tarrys website? puts himself at the top of the performance list claiming to be faster than any production car when rolling including mclaren F1. notice he hasn't added the bugatti veyron. i wonder why
have you seen rod tarrys website? puts himself at the top of the performance list claiming to be faster than any production car when rolling including mclaren F1. notice he hasn't added the bugatti veyron. i wonder why
Notorious said:
yeah got them at home mate! i will scan one in tomorrow for you! i havn't been to pod in ages. not happy to hear baout traction though cus i wanted to go soon to get some times with the cams! i did a 15.0 @ 91mph so you can tell i must have got a good launch cus of the low terminal speed! lol. i was thinking of going up shakespeare raceway? apparantly you get more runs cus its not as busy and they properly prep the track up for better traction. you been up there?
with my re-map done im hoping for about 14.5 @ 95mph then i'll be happy.
at the mo i have BMC enclosed, 4-1 manifold, pugsport exhaust, 1.1 gearbox, stripped to 880kgs and i can do a 14.79 @ 93mph
also got catcams in but havnt done 1/4 mile cus i havnt even put my foot down till there mapped!
at the mo i have BMC enclosed, 4-1 manifold, pugsport exhaust, 1.1 gearbox, stripped to 880kgs and i can do a 14.79 @ 93mph
also got catcams in but havnt done 1/4 mile cus i havnt even put my foot down till there mapped!
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nick s what bhp at the fly power you got?
brad - this video was done with an air filter and a cat back exhaust and my old gearbox
http://media.putfile.com/speedo93
i know have 4-1 manifold aswell, de-cat group n exhaust and a shorter gearbox. so it's a fair bit quicker now than it is in that video but gives you an idea. i seem to have a good one i think.
http://media.putfile.com/speedo93
i know have 4-1 manifold aswell, de-cat group n exhaust and a shorter gearbox. so it's a fair bit quicker now than it is in that video but gives you an idea. i seem to have a good one i think.
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right lets say yours is 140 bhp and weighs 880kgs
that gives you a figure of 159 bhp/tonne
mine was rr at 176 bhp and weighs 1095 kgs i beleive
that makes my 172 160bhp/tonne
so there pretty equal and will come down how each car can put the power down and also how good a driver you are!!
that gives you a figure of 159 bhp/tonne
mine was rr at 176 bhp and weighs 1095 kgs i beleive
that makes my 172 160bhp/tonne
so there pretty equal and will come down how each car can put the power down and also how good a driver you are!!
Notorious said:I'm in n/w so every drag strip is a trek for me lol Might go down not looked at the dates though.... Mine has willy engine, exhaust,decat, manifold, chip & looks like this...
that's mint! i think shakespeare will prb be closer for you than pod anyway? 14.3 is a rapid time! what was your 60ft? what does a standard williams get then?
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nick s said:
But wouldn`t a std 182 have similar power to weight?
My Cup is between 185-190 bhp and with back seats out must be just under a ton...my best time was 14.1 @ 97.5mph....but how you got a 2 sec 0-60 ft time I`ll ever know!? Have you got a diff or slicks?
Chris
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I`ll be happy with anything in between tbh m8. I`ve not got the quickshift on now which will help as I didn`t like how notchy it was and struggled changing 2nd to 3rd. Plus it is faster with the ecu reset and it will be the first run with this new engine so hopefully it will be better than for the last 18 months or so..( and the cheeky 182 manifold might be on too )
Chris
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think it`s 25...but the car weighs 1021 iirc so it can`t be far off
Done a 14.1 m8...but hasn`t been right for ages...hopefully it`s getting there now...but I`ll have to see
Chris
Done a 14.1 m8...but hasn`t been right for ages...hopefully it`s getting there now...but I`ll have to see
Chris
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Can i just say the car i raced was not standard and mine is, with 5k on the clock.
I cant see a problem with this car beating me as it was'nt standard.I was gunning mine on a straight as ive said and as i came up to 3 figures and going into 4th he just closed the gap with ease.
There are some good sleepers out there you know...
ian
I cant see a problem with this car beating me as it was'nt standard.I was gunning mine on a straight as ive said and as i came up to 3 figures and going into 4th he just closed the gap with ease.
There are some good sleepers out there you know...
ian
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