197's/200's really that bad on fuel

[marshall878]

this isnt a mpg thread on a single car its a comparison of 3 variations of the clio and if the loss in mpg is worth the gain in performance im not arsed about mpg as long as the car is worth it buy sounds of it 197/200 arent

Im with Matt. Its 100% worth it. I really dont like my mates 182. Its small. Noisy. Dash looks like a bag of shite. The 197/200 is a much nicer place to be. All mod cons. Being larger it feels more stable.

 

[LiamR172]

1*2 > 197/200 imo.

They made a bigger, heavier car that goes the same speed as the old one and costs more to run.

Was speaking to my mate the other day and he was saying the MPG in my R26 is better than his 200!

 

[Dan519]

My mpg has improved with fitting my induction kit prototype. So much more low down torque you don't have to drive as aggressively to get moving. Its still dreadful compared to much faster cars I've owned but I can get over 30 all the time now, where I was getting 26/27. 10% is noticeable

 

[klem]

Short answer is no.

It's not great but nowhere near as bad as some people think.

 

[Matt W]

You never see people complaining about the V6 fuel economy, and they're not any faster than a 182.

 

[LiamR172]

But how many people use a V6 as a daily?

 

[not260]

If I am very careful and using super unleaded I get 33 mpg in the 197 in the 172 I can manage that without trying. The 197 likes a drink. It is however a way nicer place to sit and it grips more and stops way better. Parts and general wear costs are far more too. If I were only allowed 1 clio I would sell both of mine and buy a very good ph1 172 if I was only using the car on the road I would keep the 197.

 

[LiamR172]

On a recent trackday i was passing 197s and 200s in my basically standard 172.

Although ill admit they are a far nicer place to be.

 

[Flat Eric]

On a recent trackday i was passing 197s and 200s in my basically standard 172.

Although ill admit they are a far nicer place to be.

I thought 197s and 200's handles better on track?

 

[plymcl172]

You never see people complaining about the V6 fuel economy, and they're not any faster than a 182.

way way off track you have gone! Clio V6's look like p**n, 200's do not.

point is 5 turbo- quick and light

16v- light and quick

1*2- light and quick

197/200- not light, not really quick- Renault lost the fun factor when they made the 197/200 IMO

 

[Matt W]

That's your opinion.

Having owned both 172 and 200, my opinion is that the 200 is much more fun than the 172 ever was.

 

[MarkCup]

That's your opinion.

Having owned both 172 and 200, my opinion is that the 200 is much more fun than the 172 ever was.

I agree.

A more highly strung version of the same engine in a heavier and larger body mean they're always going to suffer fuel wise...so for me, the performance just about warrants the worse fuel economy.

If you can't ever get to use the performance though (i.e. your commute is stuck in traffic), they cost a ridiculous amount to run for what you get in return.

 

[plymcl172]

I agree.

A more highly strung version of the same engine in a heavier and larger body mean they're always going to suffer fuel wise...so for me, the performance just about warrants the worse fuel economy.

If you can't ever get to use the performance though (i.e. your commute is stuck in traffic), they cost a ridiculous amount to run for what you get in return.

agree with that but there is more cars on the roads today than ever before so 9/10 times you will be stuck in traffic in 1

 

[LiamR172]

Is it possible to put a 200 engine in a 1*2?

 

[Dan519]

Is it possible to put a 200 engine in a 1*2?

​Anything is possible, but for practicality sake, no.

 

[Adamm.]

I get an average of 29 mpg in my 182 I dont know how you guys get 40mpg, on a run I can get 35 at best!!

​This for me too lol.

 

[gez 172]

Love these threads, so much LOL in them it's unreal.

averaged 36mpg in mine this morning 8)

All 60+ mph and I only pass 1 traffic light on my entire commute.

 

[Gorms]

Love these threads, so much LOL in them it's unreal.

averaged 36mpg in mine this morning 8)

All 60+ mph and I only pass 1 traffic light on my entire commute.

What reg is yours??

I have owned 2 200s and the first (09) saw the other side of 36 on most trips out but i current 200 (12) wont go above 28 on average drive out. They made some small changes to the engine at some point.

 

[gez 172]

Mine is a 2012 '12' plate

 

[realnumber 1]

You never see people complaining about the V6 fuel economy, and they're not any faster than a 182.

The V6 is a lot more special than the 1*2's whereas the 197/200 isn't.

Love these threads, so much LOL in them it's unreal.

averaged 36mpg in mine this morning 8)

All 60+ mph and I only pass 1 traffic light on my entire commute.

1*2's would do the same at 80+ lol.

 

[LiamR172]

Love these threads, so much LOL in them it's unreal.

averaged 36mpg in mine this morning 8)

All 60+ mph and I only pass 1 traffic light on my entire commute.

Thats not mixed though..

If i sit at 60 in the 172 i can get at least 45mpg.

 

[gez 172]

Why does it have to be mixed?..

this is what I'm getting at, people moaning about mpg. IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON YOUR COMMUTE/ROADS

and I said 60+, not sat at 60.

any car is going to be s**t on fuel if your sat stop/start.

Thank god I'm not, and I make the most of what Renault had the car made for. Driven on B roads.

 

[MikeLYR27]

The 182's don't read accurately, they say average of 41mpg on the motorway but in reality when it's worked out its 36 at best! Best I've had in my 182 is 380 miles to a tank, in my 197 it's was 420 on the old style gearbox (both mainly long runs).

 

[LiamR172]

197/200 has a bigger tank though, does it not?

 

[Fred@BTM]

But how many people use a V6 as a daily?

Hi!

 

[Fred@BTM]

You never see people complaining about the V6 fuel economy, and they're not any faster than a 182.

They are when driven properly!

 

[Flat Eric]

They are when driven properly!

you still need to take me for a blast in it

 

[Imurray15]

I have a 200 and it averages 27.4 according to the trip. That's with mixed driving and the odd blast now and then.

If driven at 60/70 mph on motorways/b roads then you'll easily get 33 - 34 mpg no probs

 

[jamesgw200]

my daily trip is through 30mph villages and 60mph b roads and im averaging 34mpg, but you know what. Im affraid i didnt buy a 200 for its fuel economy!

 

[dajones]

My Kia proceed 1.4 does 34mpg 60mph on a roads. One reason I don't mind upgrading to a 200

 

[Ash.]

I've bin trying to be careful in the 200 at the mo driving at 60/70 I still can't get over 29mpg. After a week of being careful I've started to drive normal again. 200's are crap on fuel may as well drive it as it was meant to be and enjoy it.

 

[Mr Burns]

True story, just enjoy it. All the people getting great economy from their Mk3 sport are either liars or complete fannies.

 

[plymcl172]

Why does it have to be mixed?..

this is what I'm getting at, people moaning about mpg. IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON YOUR COMMUTE/ROADS

and I said 60+, not sat at 60.

any car is going to be s**t on fuel if your sat stop/start.

Thank god I'm not, and I make the most of what Renault had the car made for. Driven on B roads.

this is not the case, I was sat in London traffic last week for going on 3 hours solid, 27MPG was my lowest!!

 

[kash]

my 200's never been above 29mpg, im happy with that tbh

 

[Matt W]

The computer in mine under-reads. Getting 33mpg calculated now, off to a certain german toll road on monday so hoping for lower

 

[Mutley172]

Getting 33mpg max out of my R27, but just put my 172 back on road would get 40mpg out of that if could drive it sensibly but it is like driving a kart so much fun,oh how I have missed it. Like being 18 again trouble is I am double that and and add a lot more. Who cares about mpg it's all about the grin factor "Yes"

 

[MicKPM]

I drove my Megane today to Leicester and back and got this:



It's a 2.0T petrol also not diesel. How did they get the 197 so wrong because its not even fast!

 

[Mutley172]

Last time I saw that figure was doing 27 mph in 6th gear downhill with a tailwind Lol

 

[gez 172]

I love how people say 'they're not even fast'

same pace as a standard golf r32 3.2 v6! Golf cost double on tax and is 1000X times worse on fuel

 

[MicKPM]

That's because they're not and the fuel consumption does not represent the cars pace. The 200 is the car the 197 should've been from the start... night and day difference imo