2.0 turbo

[Josie172cup]

Hi all

How hard would it be to fit a 2.0 turbo from a megane sport into a clio 172 cup? Has anyone seen this conversion done before?

Any info would be appreciated

 

[Floodie]

v.tough

 

[Josie172cup]

v.tough

lol i was just wondering if the smaller engines from a clio and megane where the same such as a 1.4 16v they might sit on the same sub frames aswell, as they do in most vw/audi etc.. i know you can take the engine straight out of a audi tt and it will sit straight on the sub frames of a post 1990 golf.

is this not the same?

 

[BoomOne]

I think if it was that easy, everyone would have done it by now. never heard of it myself

 

[Josie172cup]

I think if it was that easy, everyone would have done it by now. never heard of it myself

what about the engine its self are they the same bottom end

 

[BoomOne]

not sure hey. dont know much bout them

 

[Josie172cup]

not sure hey. dont know much bout them

me niether lol

 

[Mark One]

For a start the 225 is not an old car yet. So It's going to be really difficult to find an engine. I think that you would have trouble with the exhuast manifold hitting the bulkhead.

 

[Josie172cup]

well a boy can always dream

 

[GodSpeed]

not sure hey. dont know much bout them

I had a look at it and as far as I understand atleast the engine in the 2.0T is a F4R-series (Same bottom part) From what I have seen the engine mounts look very much the same.

A 6-speed gearbox in 182 would be nice aswell :rasp:

 

[Floodie]

Speak to Fred about it.. He started the project just after the Triassic Period ended... IIRC the problem is related to the gbox but unsure exactly...

 

[lemonnobby]

The gearbox doesnt fit end of. i think the engine did but the chassis is in the way of the gearbox.

 

[Fred@BTM]

it 100% fits, the gearbox mountings are just tricky!

 

[n0rm]

The gearbox doesnt fit end of. i think the engine did but the chassis is in the way of the gearbox.

nothing a grinder and a welder wont sort

 

[Fred@BTM]

it does fit!

 

[Rain]

everything fits in everything, the only question is how complicated is to do it

 

[Floodie]

It would be great if it fit though.............

 

[Diesel_Power]

How much does the engine weigh?

 

[Fred@BTM]

its approx 110kg, gearbox is 15kg more than a 172 box

 

[Diesel_Power]

Thats not bad . Someone do it.

 

[Josie172cup]

Thats not bad . Someone do it.

find me a good priced engine and il give it a go lol

 

[ditz]

v.tough

lol i was just wondering if the smaller engines from a clio and megane where the same such as a 1.4 16v they might sit on the same sub frames aswell, as they do in most vw/audi etc.. i know you can take the engine straight out of a audi tt and it will sit straight on the sub frames of a post 1990 golf.

is this not the same?

yeah only because they actually sold a golf with the exact same 1.8t engine in it - wouldnt be much of a conversion really as you could just go buy an off the shelf 1.8t golf for 2k and spend the money tuning.

but as for the turbo 2.0 i seem to recolect the block being taller or something along those lines there is something that renders it quite a job to get in a clio
i know the gearbox is a big problem too

 

[theduck]

gear box is the main issue iirc. Just get a VAG 1.8 20vT in there and be done with it

 

[brisa4984]

interesting... i was under the impression it wouldnt fit... guess it does.

 

[bomber]

you could get a skyline RB26 in a saxo, im sure you can get a megane engine in a clio. just depends how much you want to nob about making it fit. like fred says, he's done it and the greabox was tricky.

in that case fred, how much would it cost to get done lol

 

[Fred@BTM]

i can sell you all of my old stuff no problem, i have a brand new megane RS gearbox and an F4R turbo engine, you need to find a fabricator/motorsport specialist that can make the gearbox mounts

 

[Mark One]

fred you are a goldmine of knowledge

bows

 

[Fred@BTM]

i paid £750 for a new megane RS gearbox, you can have an F4R turbo engine and the gearbox for £500, just need rid now (no inlet or exhaust manifolds and no turbo)

 

[Mark One]

that seems like a good deal there!
Find a written off 225, you'll probs get the missing parts pretty cheap.
I CANNOT afford this. my bank currently reads minus figures, but it's a good one for someone to try

 

[Fred@BTM]

it just fits

 

[Josie172cup]

would the 5 speed box from a clio not fit

 

[Diesel_Power]

would the 5 speed box from a clio not fit

Id assume it would fit but would break almost instantly.

 

[Josie172cup]

i paid £750 for a new megane RS gearbox, you can have an F4R turbo engine and the gearbox for £500, just need rid now (no inlet or exhaust manifolds and no turbo)

that sounds so tempting but it will be april before i could start anything as im due a pay rise and a bonus then

 

[rs250nut]

Seen a spider with this conversion in pfc.

 

[Diesel_Power]

If its the same bottom end, couldnt you simply slap the head on and all the other bits?

Infact how can it be the same bottom end? I cant imagine a clio running boost on standard internals lasting long. :S

 

[Martin_172]

given time and money its deffo possible just a good bit of blood sweat and tears on the way lol i looked into fitting one into my old 1.2!! i just dont have the time to sort out fabricating mounts and making up custom shafts thats before we come to wiring!

 

[Martin_172]

If its the same bottom end, couldnt you simply slap the head on and all the other bits?

Infact how can it be the same bottom end? I cant imagine a clio running boost on standard internals lasting long. :S

no its not the same bottom end just based on the same bottom end iirc both F4R's

 

[tidyclio]

Isn't the bottom end on the 197 engine the same as the one from the Meganes? Always wondered if the heads could be swapped?Obviously there would be a bit more to it but just wondered.

 

[wayneclio16v]

you ll be lucky to get an engine the best i could find was the laguna 2.0t or espace 2.0t not even the bloke at rs tuning could get his hands on one

 

[Josie172cup]

If its the same bottom end, couldnt you simply slap the head on and all the other bits?

Infact how can it be the same bottom end? I cant imagine a clio running boost on standard internals lasting long. :S

i just thought it might be the same block but obviously not

anyway thanks for all the replies you've been a big help