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Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
There are many things to be improved over the 182 that only a new model could fix. The driving position is flawed, the seat height is set way too high and theres way too much weight over the front end.
Im in no doubt that the handling could be improved.
The previous Jump (mk1 172 from williams 3) was lacking somewhat in the handling department although the car (mk1 172) was quicker round a track, rode better and had more equipment (and was significantly safer) its handling wasnt (depending who you ask) as good as the outgoing model.
Hopefully the Jump from 182 to 192/202 (maybe) will be much more complete
Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
you dont need a turbo in a front drive car that weighs 1200kg if a n/a is pumping out 200bhp IMO
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2006? are we talking about the Mk3? Micra shaped thing?
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Thats what I mean mate.
JONGSR4s brothers 1993 Micra 1.0 16v has done 178k with nothing major ever replaced.
I actually was worried there was going to be another MK2 RS Clio. 192 or something.
Making the 172 Cup worth even less....
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Thats what I thought.
Phew.
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Im sure there will be loads and loads of pre reg 182s knocking around for about a year after they stop production. Just look at the Cup.
The new clio looks like a people carrier. I hate where they are going with new car designs. Im liking the idea of 200bhp but i think they cud have stuck a megane engine in it somehow. Would have made it a lot more tuneable anyway. wudnt want more than 300ish bhp though. Dont think i like the look of it but theres 2 yrs for it to grow on me.
Your mising the point of the initial post surely a 1.9 diesel turbo is not the same forced air as a petrol turbo. the power delivery is completely different.
The diesel will feel very torquey at low revs and punch you away from standstill but will run out of puff very quickly. petrol and diesel turbos are totally different animals. A good efficient N/A engine would provide a better drive than any turbo diesel so i wouldnt worry about the new clio having a turbo, although it would have been nice especially to have the 225 megane lump option.
Renault Laguna Coupe
So it sounds like itll have about 10% more power than a 182, with 10% more weight.
Surely thats ok? 182 is hardly boring!
http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1096795789__clio.jpg
Renaultsport clio
The three-door performance flagship due in summer 2006 will retain its familiar Renaultsport moniker and the winning formula of lightweight body, tail-happy chassis, honed suspension, a gutsy 2.0 litre naturally aspirated engine and talkative steering. Expect power to climb to 200bhp - good enough for a 6.5 second sprint to 62mph and 140mph top speed. In-gear acceleration will be aided by the introduction of a six-speed gearbox. The driving position will be much improved over the current models sit-up-and-beg arrangemet, and like the current clio 182 it will get bespoke wheels and tyres. A stripped out Cup version will follow a year on, but there will be no new clio V6. The first non-hot members of the new clio range arrive next autumn. Styled by Patrick Le Quement, it will not be much bigger than the current clio as the recently launched Modus will satisfy demand for a more spacious model.
Price: 15,500 (est)
Engine: 2.0 litre 4, 200bhp, 160lb ft
Performance: 6.5sec 0-62mph, 140mph (est)
On Sale in UK: Summer 2006
That new Clio is horrid!!
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Renault are turning into Citroen 30 years ago!
I really like the idea of a 6-speed box though. Thats got to be something tastey. Hopefully theyll change the outer bodywork a bit seeing as thats still a concept. Im sure the interior will be quality because the jump from Mk2 Ph1 to Mk2 Ph2 was a very much needed jump in the quality of the interior. I hope for the same again.
Ta, Andy
well now i know what im getting when my pcp deal runs out roll on 03/04/07!!!
I have heard that the new renaultsport clio will look nothing like the normal clio, it will be very different and be worthy of its badge.
Although im not too keen on the having to pay extra for climate and xenons like the megane 225.
It will definitely be a car to be reckoned with and I am certainly going top be looking to change to it.
The Civic is in the next hot hatch group there is quite a price jump to a CTR and many people cannot aford (or are willing to spend) the extra for a Civic. The Clio alos have a weight advantage on its side as its about 10% lighter so can keep with it in a ace plus the weight reduction should lead to beter cornering speeds.
.....Weight is the enemy !!! ...even when theres a corresponding increae in power. It mutes the steering and dulls performance, and depending where the weight goes can play havoc with the CoG. I agree that the curent 182 has too much weight over the front end , making the steering overly heavy. If they can resolve the F/R split (and the driving position) that would pay dividends.
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
Theres something wrong with that statement.
Yes the civic has 200bhp but its in the class above.
The most powerful supermini in its class is the clio anymore power and its way way infront of anything in its class. People always seem to make the common mistake of comparing the clio to the civic, but its not a direct competor as such.
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