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I would say a close match but the clio would take it...
The pug is around 130bhp the clio 137bhp
1905cc Petrol
1987 to 1994.
105bhp (CTi), 130bhp (GTi), 122bhp (GTi with cat.).
5sp manual, Front Wheel Drive.
127mph, 7.5secs 0-60 (GTi).
29-37mpg.
GTi in 3dr form.
CTi in Cabriolet form.
GTi has disc brakes all round
Renault Laguna Coupe
From what I remember of driving a 205 GTI it would probably end up in a ditch long before you could work out which was faster.
"Oh-my God-Im-going-to-die-any-minute-now" is my abiding memory of the 205GTI.
RESULTS
I have raced one of this rolling and standing this is what happened
Rolling Start
I planted it, was slowly pulling away from him all stop at about 110 as i thought that was fast enough
Standing Start
Right same car again, red lights, 2 lanes massive straight bloody brillant!! right reving the engines, i had to bold p-zeros on the front tried letting of at 4k, just span and he was of ! arse!! keep it to the floor, he had about 1 cars length, i was pulling it back every time i went from 5-7k, caught him and got level before having to slow for next roundabout!!!
so there you go,
Valver Wins!
Audi TT Stronic
I have owned two 205 GTis .. in the real world you would beat it in a straight line, round the twisties Im not so sure, I know the clio is a great handling car but the 205 GTis inspire so much confidence, during my owning both of the cars (on which was lowered 30mm) there was nothing I could do that the car couldnt handle.
Once and only once the back end came out a bit but this was due to an uneven road surface. All I am saying is IMO the 205 GTi would beat Clios round the corners and that the 205 has superior handling out of both cars as standard.
clio 20v
most 205s are fuked now the clio is a much better car
205 has much more torque
adi
The Pug only weighs about 880kg (kerb weight) compared to 980kg for the Valver (I think, cant remember). Just sold my ill fated 205 today. As Adi says, most of em are f**ked now, but 130bhp in a 880kg car mooooves!
Still, Id rather have a Willy/16v than a 205 GTi. The interiors are terrible!
Rhys
Thing is with racing one of these is you never know what model it is. Ever1 badges up the xsis as GTIs and the 1.6GTIs as 1.9. Also there is the mi16 lump that a few have in there. You will never know if you have beaten a 1.9Gti or whether it was a 1.6.
I heard about an interesting fact that around a quarter of 205s, have a different engine to what they were built with.
I think its fairly safe to say that if you roast a 205 in a 16v, its not a 1.9. If it beats you, then its probably an Mi16 conversion. If its really close, then itll be a genuine 1.9.
I know the Mi16 is a very highly rated conversion, but it wont be massively faster than a regular 1.9/Clio 16v. It will be faster, but in my experience on the road you need to be carrying a lot of extra power/torque to make a big difference.
