225 engined RS

[MATT BLACK]

I'll disagree.

The VAG lump is by no means nothing special by any means, its a boggo standard 4 pot with a turbocharger, an awful head, pretty bog standard designs for components

Ben - sometimes in life the simplest idea's are the best. The 1.8 T lump is a world wide proven lump and has been used in many conversions, some of which are running 10 sec qtr miles in FWD cars.

The F4R 744 T lump has yet to be proven.

 

[MATT BLACK]

wooop wooooop.

I said nothing about fitting one into a clio, but simply the comments that it is a weak engine compared to the vag lump, which at best is average.

But your saying you will do the big rubber c**k thing if i simply fit an engine?

Calm down son - im winding you up

And yes......i have a rubber c0ck waiting

 

[BenR]

Ben - sometimes in life the simplest idea's are the best. The 1.8 T lump is a world wide proven lump and has been used in many conversions, some of which are running 10 sec qtr miles in FWD cars.

The F4R 744 T lump has yet to be proven.

yes, but there are dozens of engines currently running over 800bhp in 4pot 2 litres, its nothing to shout about in the turbo world. Have you seen what scadanavian blokes do with shitty old volvo lumps?

 

[artur69uk]

I have spoken to quite a few "experts" and they reckon that with forget internals, etc, etc the F4R will be able to produce well over 600hp. So if you invest the money there is no reason you cant get big power and reliability from the 225 engine.

 

[MATT BLACK]

I to have spoken to quite a few "experts" and they reckon if i spent £5k on a c0ck extension i could increase from an 8" to a 12" c0ck. So if you invest the money there is no reason you cant get a big c0ck for £5k

 

[Gweebs]

I to have spoken to quite a few "experts" and they reckon if i spent £5k on a c0ck extension i could increase from an 8" to a 12" c0ck. So if you invest the money there is no reason you cant get a big c0ck for £5k

PMSL!!!!

I've been quoted for a transplant to remove the one from my forehead and attach it to my man hood, giving another 150 bhp and 15" of pure lovin...

 

[MATT BLACK]

For £50 i will remove the one from my pants and insert it in your gob

 

[Neil G]

yes, but there are dozens of engines currently running over 800bhp in 4pot 2 litres, its nothing to shout about in the turbo world. Have you seen what scadanavian blokes do with sh*tty old volvo lumps?

Agree

 

[Fred@BTM]

I to have spoken to quite a few "experts" and they reckon if i spent £5k on a c0ck extension i could increase from an 8" to a 12" c0ck. So if you invest the money there is no reason you cant get a big c0ck for £5k

ahem, 6", don't over quote yourself now

 

[Neil G]

lol

 

[Paul_P1]

I to have spoken to quite a few "experts" and they reckon if i spent £5k on a c0ck extension i could increase from an 8" to a 12" c0ck. So if you invest the money there is no reason you cant get a big c0ck for £5k

I've heard you wouldn't be able to utilise that extra 4" where it counts though!

 

[Ally]

How did this manage to descend from talk about engine tuning to c0cks? Only on Cliosport lol :rasp:

Interesting discussions though - the engine bits, not the c0cks...

 

[MATT BLACK]

I've heard you wouldn't be able to utilise that extra 4" where it counts though!

How deep is your throat ? ive PM'd you my address

 

[TheJesus]

ROFL!!! Quality thread!

 

[fmp_]

haha, excellent stuff.

Surely tho it is a fairly possible conversion, if you are prepared for...

1) the fabrication of engine mounts ( how many, who knows, maybe fred could shed some light)

2) you may have to go standalone ECU (omex or suchlike)

3) Custom drive shafts, would you need these, i am guessing yes!

4) gearbox size - is there not a 5 speed box that would fit? (maybe from a deisel model?)

I guess the hardest part would be sourcing a 225 lump tho, as they seem rarer than rocking horse poopy!

 

[polarbert]

That Andy guy on meganesport has around 270bhp doesn't he?

 

[fmp_]

oh and...

5) The fitment of a pedal box, or at least a clutch pedal to deal with the hydrolic clutch.

 

[artur69uk]

I to have spoken to quite a few "experts" and they reckon if i spent £5k on a c0ck extension i could increase from an 8" to a 12" c0ck. So if you invest the money there is no reason you cant get a big c0ck for £5k

God how old are you, feels like im back at primary school. Just trying have a a discussion if you are not able to see other members points of views what the point of being part of a discussion? IMO you can stick any VAG engine up your A55.

 

[Fred@BTM]

haha, excellent stuff.

Surely tho it is a fairly possible conversion, if you are prepared for...

1) the fabrication of engine mounts ( how many, who knows, maybe fred could shed some light)

2) you may have to go standalone ECU (omex or suchlike)

3) Custom drive shafts, would you need these, i am guessing yes!

4) gearbox size - is there not a 5 speed box that would fit? (maybe from a deisel model?)

I guess the hardest part would be sourcing a 225 lump tho, as they seem rarer than rocking horse poopy!

answers are as follows

1) 4 main ones, but i think it'll need 5 all in, only 1 off the shelf renault one fits the clio and the megane

2) yup OMEX

3) yup GKN motorsport custom made

4) nope only one that fits inside the engine bay is the ND0 6speed megane RS unit (its a bit tight!)

5) pedal box - yup uber sexy Tilton one (you can bodge it and do it pikey)

engine sourcing easy! MATT BLACK has 20 of them brand new for £1500 + VAT (new gearbox is £750 + VAT IIRC)

one day in this milenium i "might" be bothered to do it

 

[fmp_]

any other pics fred?

 

[Neil G]

That gearbox really is a bit of a squeeze

 

[Fred@BTM]

any other pics fred?

a few, but nothing that special!

 

[fmp_]

i see that top left hand mount fits.

i pressume thats the only one?

did that mount come with the engine, or is it from the original engine?

 

[edde]

i see that top left hand mount fits.

i pressume thats the only one?

did that mount come with the engine, or is it from the original engine?

Originally the car was a 1.2 the mounts probaly one of the mounts Fred had lieing round. The 1.2 mounts are different than that one.
I wish Fred would get on and fit the engine its been going on for ages.

 

[Fred@BTM]

i see that top left hand mount fits.

i pressume thats the only one?

did that mount come with the engine, or is it from the original engine?

thats a 172/182 mount, the ONLY one thats the same/fits

 

[fmp_]

ah right, i see!

are the rest of the mounts on a 1.2 the same as the 172/182?

certanly looks like an interesting conversion (from a mechanical problem solving point of view)

 

[Fred@BTM]

no the 1.2 mounts are different, but they use the same chassis fixing points as the 172/182 (hence why you can drop the 172 engine in with no problems!)

 

[fmp_]

u tried the turbo and exhaust manifold on there?

enough clearence between bulk head and block?

what sort of intercooler you planniong on using?

so amny questions i know!! lol

 

[Fred@BTM]

yeah turbo and manifold fit in easily

intercooler is from a 3.0 dci new espace, its HUGE

 

[fmp_]

cool.

is it something your working on at the mo, or is it on the back burner?

should be a rocket when/if it ever see's the road!

 

[Fred@BTM]

its been on the back burner for the past 2years!!! LOL

car needs a full respray etc etc

i'm either going to finish it first or put TB's on the V6 first, descisions descisions!!!!

 

[Graham Gooch]

I'll disagree.

The VAG lump is by no means nothing special by any means, its a boggo standard 4 pot with a turbocharger, an awful head, pretty bog standard designs for components. Boost is a wonderful thing.

the Fr4T is a BEEEEEFY engine, the gearbox is another issue but we'll see how much abuse they can take before they brake. And like i've always said, gearbox's live if you use them correctly. Engine management is a seperate issue, i'm sure you could push some serious power out of the renault lump if you were to run a decent turbo and ECU on it.

i could kiss you for that statement

 

[edde]

its been on the back burner for the past 2years!!! LOL

car needs a full respray etc etc

i'm either going to finish it first or put TB's on the V6 first, descisions descisions!!!!

Sort out he tubro first before starting on the V6 please I want to see this completed some time.

 

[BenR]

i could kiss you for that statement

why 'could'..........?

next time you see me just run up and kiss me, and i'll know its you.