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360 HD-DVD drive £130



Clart

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  F31 330d
Out before christmas, with a media remote and King Kong HD-DVD

:p

Dear Santa....
 
  Clio Mk1 1.4RT
Much better than the blu-ray sh*te that Sony are bringing out! With the blu-ray DVD you have to buy a completely different DVD collection where as with microsoft you just either plug-in or unplug the H-D DVD Drive! WOOO! ROCK ON MICROSOFT I SAY!
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
You have been reading the leaked rumours from tomorrow show.

No one knows where the info came from. So I wouldnt hold my breath. I would expect it to be £179.99 to £199.99 with a DVD or 2.

Be sweet if it was £130
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
Seems like it has been confirmed

Barcelona, Spain—On the shores of one of the world's most artistic and progressive cities, Microsoft Corp. today thrilled attendees at its annual X06 event by inviting everyone to experience the next generation now on the Xbox 360™ system. The announcements and hands-on gameplay experiences highlight how the world's greatest game creators are pushing the boundaries of what is possible in high definition and online storytelling. Highlights of the announcements included the
following:
• A landmark partnership between Academy Award-winning writer,
director, and producer Peter Jackson, Academy Award-winning screenwriter Fran Walsh, and Microsoft Game Studios will create two new interactive entertainment series exclusively for Xbox 360 and Xbox Live(r). The first will be a collaborative effort with Bungie Studios to co-create the next great chapter in the Halo(r) universe. The second will be an entirely original property targeted at bringing new audiences into the captivating world of interactive entertainment. In addition, Microsoft Game Studios will partner with Jackson and Walsh to establish Wingnut Interactive, a studio dedicated to the creation of world-class interactive entertainment.
• Halo(r) Wars is an all-new real-time strategy game based on the
legendary Halo universe and designed exclusively for Xbox 360 by Ensemble Studios, creators of the Age of Empires(r) franchise.
• Rockstar and Take-Two will provide Xbox 360 gamers with exclusive
access to two epic downloadable episodes of Grand Theft Auto IV via Xbox Live, each with hours of new gameplay content, and available only on Xbox 360 just months after the release of the title.
• Ubisoft confirmed that the next Splinter Cell title, the installment
after Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell(r) Double Agent™, will be exclusive to Xbox 360, a testament to the ability of the powerful next-gen game console to deliver experiences no other console can match.
• 2K Games confirmed that BioShock, a first person shooter that will
revolutionize the genre and forever change the expectations of gamers, will be released exclusively on Xbox 360 and Microsoft(r) Windows(r) next spring.
• Project Gotham Racing(r) 4, was unveiled, the latest addition to
the best-selling franchise, made exclusively for Xbox 360 by Bizarre Creations. PGR4 promises to continue the series' pedigree of innovation by introducing exciting new experiences to racing fans worldwide.
• The beloved Banjo-Kazooie(r) franchise will breathe new,
high-definition life exclusively on Xbox 360, from famed developer Rare Ltd. Beloved characters Banjo, Kazooie and Gruntilda—among other fan favorites—will new next-gen visuals and presentation as well as their sharp wit and hilarious sense of humor.
• Microsoft Game Studios will release its highly-anticipated new MMO
game, Marvel Universe Online for both Xbox 360 and the Windows Vista™ operating system. MUO was developed by industry luminaries Cryptic Studios, creators of the smash hits City of Heroes and City of Villains.
• Expect two new additions to Xbox Live Arcade: The FPS that pioneered
the network-gaming era, DOOM(r), from acclaimed developer id Software and Activision, is available now on Xbox Live Marketplace. The game includes the original four-episode single-player game, four-player split screen action, both co-op and deathmatch, and four player co-op and deathmatch via Xbox Live. Coming soon to Xbox Live Arcade is Sensible World of Soccer from Codemasters. Based on a classic Amiga title from 1994, Sensible World of Soccer will let gamers choose between the original graphics or an updated, high-resolution look and feel—while still capturing the original game's wide world of football.
• Arriving at retailers in North America, the U.K, France and Germany
in mid-November 2006, the Xbox 360 HD DVD Player will retail for
$199.99 in North America (estimated retail price)* and €199.99/£129.99 (estimated retail price)* in the U.K., France and Germany. The Xbox 360 HD DVD Player comes with the Universal Pictures' blockbuster film Peter Jackson's "King Kong" on HD DVD (for a limited time) and the Xbox 360 Universal Media Remote.
"Xbox 360 is changing the way developers are telling stories today — from the industry's most beloved franchises to exciting new properties," said Peter Moore, corporate vice president of the Interactive Entertainment Business in the Entertainment and Devices Division at Microsoft. "We are inspiring the imaginations of the entertainment industry's best and most creative talent to take their franchises in exciting directions, while also spinning new tales for everyone."
"We are incredibly pleased to be here in Barcelona to talk about the next chapter of Xbox and how Xbox 360 continues to deliver on the promise and potential of the next generation," said Chris Lewis, regional vice president of the Home and Entertainment Division, Europe, Middle East and Africa (EMEA), at Microsoft. "As we prepare to launch some of our biggest global titles and best regional content both right now and well into the future, consumers will have much to choose from with a system designed for high-definition and online entertainment. We are the only next-generation experience that seamlessly connects players to their games, friends and entertainment content."
Xbox 360 Stretches Popular Franchises in New Directions Xbox 360 continues to expand the interactive entertainment landscape, enabling industry superstars to take beloved franchises in exciting new directions. Microsoft Game Studios announced its partnership with Peter Jackson to herald in a new age of interactive entertainment that can only be realized on Xbox 360 and Xbox Live. The goal of this partnership is to create new stories and redefine the way they are told. The first part of this long-term relationship is for Jackson, Walsh and team to bring to life two new interactive entertainment experiences exclusively for the Xbox 360 and Xbox Live. The first project is to co-write, co-design and co-produce a completely new and original chapter in the "Halo" universe in collaboration with Bungie Studios. The second project is an entirely original property from the team in New Zealand that will not only bring a whole new interactive story to life, but will also captivate new audiences that have yet to discover the power of interactive entertainment.
In addition, in collaboration with Microsoft Game Studios, Jackson and Walsh are creating Wingnut Interactive. The two will create a world-class interactive entertainment studio that fuses the strength of Microsoft's technology and interactive entertainment experience with the creative and imaginative excellence of the Wingnut Interactive team.
"Microsoft has built an amazing living canvas with Xbox 360 and Xbox Live, which allows the storytellers of our time to express themselves in a new medium. They have fundamentally changed how people think about games," Jackson said. "My vision, together with Microsoft Game Studios, is to push the boundaries of game development and the future of interactive entertainment. From a movie-maker's point of view, it is clear to me that the Xbox 360 platform is the stage where storytellers can work their craft in the same way they do today with movies and books but taking it further with interactivity."
In addition to demonstrating its leadership in the next-generation of games through exclusive alliances, Microsoft Game Studios announced "Halo Wars," an all-new real-time strategy game based on the legendary "Halo" universe and built exclusively for Xbox 360 by Ensemble Studios, the creators of the "Age of Empires" series. "Halo Wars"
places the player in command of human UNSC armies as they deploy for mankind's first deadly encounter with the enemy Covenant forces.
In addition, Microsoft Game Studios provided first details surrounding "Project Gotham Racing 4," the latest addition to the premiere racing franchise from Bizarre Creations and the reunion of Banjo, Kazooie and Gruntilda in an all-new addition to the "Banjo-Kazooie" franchise from industry veterans Rare.
Microsoft and Ubisoft announced that the next "Splinter Cell" title will be created exclusively for Xbox 360. Based on the increasingly proven potential of the Xbox 360 hardware and its online promise, Ubisoft confirmed that Xbox 360 will be the exclusive platform for the next iteration of its influential and massively popular espionage franchise. Through the power of Xbox Live, the series that revolutionized online cooperative and competitive gameplay promises to transform and modernize online gaming once again.
New details regarding the exclusive, epic episodic content for the upcoming and highly anticipated "Grand Theft Auto IV" from Rockstar and Take-Two were also revealed; Rockstar Games will offer two downloadable episodes, each with hours of entirely new gameplay, extending the experience of an already immense game. Both chapters will be exclusive and available only to Xbox 360 gamers via Xbox Live.
"Grand Theft Auto IV" will be available to Xbox 360 gamers on its first day of availability: Oct. 16, 2007, in North America and Oct.
19, 2007, in Europe.
Xbox Live Arcade made a surprise unveiling today of one of the greatest games of the 3-D era: "DOOM" (id Software) is now available for download for 800 points. The game brings legendary "DOOM" mayhem to gamers, who for the first time ever can relive the classic demon-blasting fragfest in both single-player and two-to-four player co-operative and deathmatch modes over Xbox Live. Also a new, multititle relationship with Codemasters was announced, with the first title being the classic, fast-action soccer game, "Sensible World of Soccer."
Xbox Live is a thriving online game community, connecting more than 3 million members across nearly 25 countries to enjoy hundreds of social games, as well as on-demand game demos, Xbox Live Arcade games, and music and movie content. With more than 10 million downloads to date and nearly 100 independent, classic and original development titles available by next summer, Xbox Live Arcade is a fast-growing phenomenon.
Most Affordable Way for Xbox 360 Owners to Jump Into the Next-Generation of DVD At X06, exciting details about the highly anticipated Xbox 360 HD DVD Player were also revealed. Available in mid-November 2006 in North America for $199.99 (estimated retail price)*, in the U.K., France and Germany for €199.99 (£129.99) (estimated retail price)* and other territories in 2007, the Xbox 360 HD DVD Player comes with the Universal Pictures blockbuster film Peter Jackson's "King Kong" on HD DVD (for a limited time) and the Xbox 360 Universal Media Remote.
Users can just add Xbox 360 HD DVD Player to Xbox 360 to create the ultimate home-theater experience.
"The Xbox 360 HD DVD Player is the best high-definition movie experience and value on the market," Moore said. "The reviews, the word of mouth and the consumer response have all been crystal clear — HD DVD is the format of choice. We're not forcing movie technology on game players but are instead letting them choose how to personalize their experiences. If they want HD DVD, there's no better value out there."
The Xbox 360 HD DVD Player offers up to six times higher resolution than DVD, and as part of the fall 2006 console update all Xbox 360 consoles will have the ability to output native resolution 1080p games and movies. Users can enjoy blockbuster HD DVD releases, with more than 150 titles available by the holidays from major movie studios including HBO, Paramount Pictures, StudioCanal, Universal Studios, New Line Entertainment and Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
The Industry's Most Anticipated Titles Are Coming to Xbox 360 In addition to taking popular franchises in new directions, developers are finding new life through Xbox 360 with exciting new content and are delivering many of the industry's most praised and anticipated titles.
Arguably the most anticipated title of 2006, "Gears of War" from Epic Games and Microsoft Game Studios is a third-person tactical action/horror game available exclusively on Xbox 360. "Gears of War"
will be the only game to blend a deep and disturbing story of human survival against hordes of nightmarish creatures with a next-generation tactical combat system and unsurpassed visuals and special effects. "Gears of War," which will be available Nov. 12, 2006, in the U.S. and Nov. 17, 2006, in Europe, has garnered numerous industry awards and accolades including the Game Critics Awards Best Console and Best Action Game of E3 2006, IGN's E3 2005 Best Xbox 360 Game, and GameSpot's E3 2006 People's Choice Award.
From leading U.K.-based developer Rare and Microsoft Game Studios comes "Viva Piñata™," an original game concept and the latest innovative gaming experience for gamers of all ages and types. "Viva Piñata" invites gamers to create an immersive world where living piñatas inhabit an ever-changing environment. "Viva Pinata," which has won several industry awards including Best Graphics from Nick Jr.
Magazine and IGN's Runner-Up for Best Strategy Game of E3 2006, is scheduled to be available this holiday.
Underlining the Xbox 360 platform strength, Microsoft and Ubisoft today confirmed that "Assassin's Creed," the eagerly anticipated action title set in medieval times, is also coming to Xbox 360 day and date with the game's release on other platforms. "Assassin's Creed" is a next-generation action-adventure/stealth title from the highly talented and critically acclaimed team that brought gamers "Prince of
Persia: The Sands of Time." "Assassin's Creed" will place gamers in the role of a ruthless and skilled Assassin as he tracks his victims through the historical era known as the Crusades.
Last week at the Tokyo Game Show in Japan, "Lost Odyssey" wowed audiences with its incredible graphic style and epic storyline. From famed Japanese developer Hironobu Sakaguchi, "Lost Odyssey" will be shipped in Japan in 2007, and in the U.S. and Europe at a later date.
Few games have generated more interest than "BioShock" (2K Games) in the past year, and Microsoft confirmed today that the highly anticipated first-person shooter will be exclusive to Xbox 360 and Windows when it launches in spring 2007.
Looking into the coming year, X06 showcased a montage video trailer demonstrating the dazzling power and versatility of the Xbox 360 platform, promising gamers a choice of titles and genres coming this spring season, including the Microsoft Game Studios titles "Crackdown™" (Real Time Worlds), "Too Human" (Silicon Knights), "Mass Effect" (BioWare Corp.), and "Forza Motorsport™ 2" (Turn 10). In addition to these titles from Microsoft Game Studios, games from today's leading publishers round out what is already a robust library of offerings for the Xbox 360 platform, including "John Woo Presents Stranglehold" (Midway), "Lost Planet: Extreme Condition" (Capcom) and "Pro Evolution Soccer 6" (Konami).
Microsoft underscored the continued momentum behind Xbox 360 with more than 5 million consoles sold since launch, the fastest console launch ever. Microsoft remains on track to deliver 10 million consoles worldwide, with a library of 160 games, by end of year. The Xbox Live community continues to grow and is on track to double in size to 6 million gamers by June 2007. Those numbers are supported by the most impressive number of all: Xbox 360 is now available in more than 30 countries since the console launched last November. By the end of this year, Xbox 360 will launch in even more countries, including South Africa and in Europe where plans are set in Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland.
Microsoft also provided attendees with an update on Games for Windows and announced several exciting new Games for Windows titles, including "Bioshock" and "Marvel Universe Online." Starting this September with
"LEGO(r) Star Wars(r) II: The Original Trilogy" from LucasArts and "Company of Heroes" from THQ, games will carry the Games for Windows branding after meeting a set of technical guidelines designed to provide consumers with a consistent, reliable gaming experience on Windows XP and Windows Vista. The guidelines include easier game installation, improved reliability and support for key Windows Vista features such as the Games Explorer and Parental Controls. They will also support wide-screen gaming, will launch from within Windows
Media(r) Center, be compatible with 64-bit consumer versions of Windows, and will support the Xbox 360 Controller for Windows (for games that enable gamepads).
Attendees were given a glimpse of the exciting upcoming Games for Windows titles including "Hellgate: London" (NAMCO BANDAI Games), "Rail Simulator" (Electronic Arts) and "Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures" (Eidos/Funcom), as well as Microsoft Game Studios titles "Age of Empires III: The WarChiefs," "Alan Wake," "Zoo Tycoon(r) 2:
Marine Mania(r)," "Flight Simulator X," "Shadowrun™," "Halo 2" for Windows Vista and the newly named "Marvel Universe Online," a massively multiplayer online game for Xbox 360 and Windows Vista from Cryptic Studios.
 

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  Audi TT Stronic
Tarmac Terrorist said:
Much better than the blu-ray sh*te that Sony are bringing out! With the blu-ray DVD you have to buy a completely different DVD collection where as with microsoft you just either plug-in or unplug the H-D DVD Drive! WOOO! ROCK ON MICROSOFT I SAY!

Blu-ray is better than HDDVD in every way, and most blu-ray players will be able to play normal dvd's too, and possibly even HDDVD aswell..
 
  Yaris Hybrid
I thought with the early drives HD DVD had the edge but now with some upgrades it is pretty much even.........aside from the price with HD DVD being far cheaper.
 
I'll buy one!

According to Play.com, HD-DVD is 4x better than DVD, Blu-ray is 5x better. Personally ive never had a problem with the quality of a nornal DVD and I very much doubt you would be able to tell the difference if they were both playing side by side!
 
  Monaro VXR
Theres better technology already out just not publicly yet. Just wait till HVD starts making an appearance. Holographic versatile disc for those that dont know about it. Also same tech can be used in flash memory load of next gen high res digicams will be using it as its capable of storing nearly 4tb of info.
 
Revels106 said:
Personally ive never had a problem with the quality of a nornal DVD and I very much doubt you would be able to tell the difference if they were both playing side by side!

Except one's 480p and the other is 1080p

More than double the resolution?
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab
Roy Munson said:
Except one's 480p and the other is 1080p

More than double the resolution?
i think hes referring to having HD-DVD and Blu-Ray side by side and not noticing the difference.

AFAIk, HD-DVD is 1080i and Blu-Ray is 1080p

More studios have signed up to Blu_ray and very few studios are going to be producing both formats so the most choice is likely to be on Blu-ray but the best idea is just to buy a dual format one like we all have with DVD-RWs and the + and - formats which has never caused us a problem.
 
Revels106 said:
Bothered?

Just posted what it says on their site.

Not sure what you mean? If you're not bothered about the differeence between 720/1080p and regular 480p DVD then fair enough, HDDVD isn't for you then :)
 
No no no, youve got me confused!

I meant telling the difference between Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Not between DVD and HD-DVD.
 
dave182 said:
i think hes referring to having HD-DVD and Blu-Ray side by side and not noticing the difference.

Ah yeah ok, my bad. HDDVD will win the format war anyway. Sony are fucked and all the studios will come running when they realise it :cool:
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab
Revels106 said:
I'll buy one!

According to Play.com, HD-DVD is 4x better than DVD, Blu-ray is 5x better. Personally ive never had a problem with the quality of a nornal DVD and I very much doubt you would be able to tell the difference if they were both playing side by side!
i think play have this wrong anyway, how can something with a little over double the resolution be 5 times better????

I think they are referring to the size without realising it as HDDVD is about 4 times bigger than DVD and Blu-Ray is even bigger.
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
When I was in the states I watched about 30 mins of a BLue Ray film on a High end HD LCD, and wasnt the impressed with the picture quality compared to my Toshiba HD-DVD player.

IMO HD-DVD looks better to my eyes. But only marginally. To be honest there isnt a lot to pick between the 2. My Tosh HD-DVD player plays Standard DVDs as well?
 

Tom

  EV
The main issue is screen technology. LCD and Plasma aint up to it.

When SED is on the market, then things will change.
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
There is a world of difference between SD and HD dvd's

MASSIVE! Theres allways something bigger and better in the pipeline
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab
Rasclart said:
When I was in the states I watched about 30 mins of a BLue Ray film on a High end HD LCD, and wasnt the impressed with the picture quality compared to my Toshiba HD-DVD player.

IMO HD-DVD looks better to my eyes. But only marginally. To be honest there isnt a lot to pick between the 2. My Tosh HD-DVD player plays Standard DVDs as well?
at CeBit I was watching HD-DVD and Blu-Ray on a 103" and 102" plasma and the picture was absolutely stunning for both, even up close the picture was amazingly crisp, so lifelike!
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab
Rasclart said:
When I was in the states I watched about 30 mins of a BLue Ray film on a High end HD LCD, and wasnt the impressed with the picture quality compared to my Toshiba HD-DVD player.

IMO HD-DVD looks better to my eyes. But only marginally. To be honest there isnt a lot to pick between the 2. My Tosh HD-DVD player plays Standard DVDs as well?
where did you get your hd-dvd player from and doesn't it only play US discs as i heard HD-DVD is regional, or maybe its that even though hd-dvd isn't regional, normal dvd's still are on it?
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
I think the main thing was

Samsung Blu Ray player $999
Tosh HD-DVD Player $499

No brainer really
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab
Rasclart said:
I think the main thing was

Samsung Blu Ray player $999
Tosh HD-DVD Player $499

No brainer really
which is why the PS3 is sucj good value when you get a blu-ray drive included, shame it isn't out till next year now.
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
dave182 said:
where did you get your hd-dvd player from and doesn't it only play US discs as i heard HD-DVD is regional, or maybe its that even though hd-dvd isn't regional, normal dvd's still are on it?

I imported mine from the states.

It plays Region 1 SD DVD's and Region 1 HD-DVD's I am not sure if it will do any other Region HD-DVDs as they dont exist yet.

I will be selling it before they are released over here though!
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
But the 360 with the Add on is a good deal

Say u went for the Core with the Player thats £340 for a HD-DVD player.

The Toshs I think are going to retail for £400-450 over here
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab
yeah, i'll be getting the HD addon for my 360 for sure, do we know whether it has the HDMI port yet though?

Then will probably get the ps3 for the bluray drive and games like GT
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
As far as I know NO i doesnt.

But from trying the Tosh using HDMI and Component I saw hardly any difference. So it shouldnt be an issue
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
Tom said:
HDMI will not be supported by the 360 (or so im told)

Thats not true it will if and when its needed. Some places are allready listing cables as coming in the new year.

The simple reason is it isnt at the moment. With HDCP not being used for a few years yet its ppointless
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
IMO I cant really see any difference.

I am sure the uber techno geeks would pick some stuff out. But I honestly cant

This is trying on a 32" Hitachi LCD, 43" Pioneer Plasma and a 42" LG Plasma and my HD ready projector.
 
  Monaro VXR
HDMI is basically exactly the same as using VGA/ DVI to watch movies though theres a slight difference over component. From what i've seen anyway.

However The only difference between DVI and HDMI is. HDMI supports audio as well. Thats it. Thats why I wasnt arsed about not having HDMI on my TV as long as it had enough component and VGA / DVI sockets it was fine. Im never going to play anything throught he TV speakers i use my external amp so theres no need in it.

An playing bluray and hd dvd side by side should see no difference. Its just one allows for extra storage. Resolutions are the same etc so it should not matter. And studios are pretty much a perfectly even split between them. However i think one company has now designed a disk that works with high def films on both blu ray and hd dvd players. So if more adopt there tech it wont matter which you get it'll be exactly the same.
 
main differences between blueray and hd dvd are down to security (once you get past the obvious differences)

Picture quality resolution wise is the same but final quality will vary by each encoding of the film its up to the studio how it looks not the storage medium


vga and dvi/hdmi are fundamentaly different infact vga has more in common with component than hdmi its analogue for a start.

one of the benefits of hdmi is the bandwidth available down the cable
 


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