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5000 rpm Kick
- Thread starter 182tev
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Yep its normal, doubt the kicker is stronger than a Vtec kick though, at least mine isn't.
Yep 5k rpm kick is normal, mines remapped with an RSTuner box so the 5k kick has been smoothed out.
I put it back to normal a year or two ago, I didn't like the whole nothing....nothing....nothing.....5k rpm....at last some power.
Standard engines feel broken to me now.
I put it back to normal a year or two ago, I didn't like the whole nothing....nothing....nothing.....5k rpm....at last some power.
Standard engines feel broken to me now.
Yeah you have to rev the type-R's a lot more to get the powerband, something which although is find is a tad annoying, part of the reason I also went to a Clio.
My dad has one of the newer Type-R's (FN2 I think?) and I've gotta say, I'd choose my Clio any day of the week.
My dad has one of the newer Type-R's (FN2 I think?) and I've gotta say, I'd choose my Clio any day of the week.
Lies!! 
Clio RS 172 /Trafic
The VVT does give a kick. The F-4R engine thrives on being driven hard. De-cat will fail the MOT so I wouldn't bother.
Here we go again!
The VVT is not the kick. The VVT comes in at about 1650rpm and switches back about 6500rpm from memory, the '5k kick' is the engine getting to VE, or coming 'on cam' in old speak. VVT has nothing to do with that kick.
Do fully agree that in 99% of cases a decat will fail an mot, and although they are no 8000rpm Honda, they do rev freely to 7000 rpm and are safe to do so, and do pull hard up the higher revs with a few mods
Nissan 350Z
My old 182 also had more of a kick at 5K than my Phase 1, which TBQH doesn't seem to have any kick at 5K... what the Ph1 does do however, is to start accelerating noticeably quicker once you get it to about 3500 - 4000 RPM... my understanding is this is just when the engine reaches peak volumetric efficiency?
Now, my old DC2 Integra-R. That had a proper kick once you got to 6,000 rpm, and it headbutted the limiter at 9,000 rpm. That was a LOT of fun. Although the kick was amplified by the lack of power below that (but it still wasn't as bad as many seem to think - it was no slower than Clio < 4000 RPM).
No matter, I eventually intend to get a remap to smooth things out, and TBH, on the road, you're better off having a smoother delivery, means you don't have to either drive slow or flat out as per the Honda.
Now, my old DC2 Integra-R. That had a proper kick once you got to 6,000 rpm, and it headbutted the limiter at 9,000 rpm. That was a LOT of fun. Although the kick was amplified by the lack of power below that (but it still wasn't as bad as many seem to think - it was no slower than Clio < 4000 RPM).
No matter, I eventually intend to get a remap to smooth things out, and TBH, on the road, you're better off having a smoother delivery, means you don't have to either drive slow or flat out as per the Honda.
328, MK1 Clio 1.4
Thanks for that, I was about to get a rage on.
I wouldn't call it a kick either, LOLer. It is nowhere near the kind of kick you get from even a turbo diesel.
Evo 5 RS
It's weird how many people think the VVT does anything. It's just when the cam becomes efficient as Russ just said. It must be because it sounds like V-Tec.
VVT has been around since time began. On the F4R it purely effects low down drivability by advance, there would be NO noticeable kick at 5k from it.
Oh, and V-Tec knocks the socks off the F4R for cross-over, so stop kidding yourselves! Much better engines
VVT has been around since time began. On the F4R it purely effects low down drivability by advance, there would be NO noticeable kick at 5k from it.
Oh, and V-Tec knocks the socks off the F4R for cross-over, so stop kidding yourselves! Much better engines
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1995 Renault Clio 1.8 16v
Vtec crossover on an ep3 is far more violent than coming on cam in a Clio, imo.
My last 172 had a huge kick at 5k, it was standard bar an air filter.
My 182 has cat back exhaust and enclosed ram fed filter, the kick isn't so violent but the bottom end is a lot smoother and it has no flat spot around 3.5 - 4k which the 172 did have...
The 182 has no flat spot at all, and the 5k kick isn't so harsh and it seems a lot gruntier throughout the rev range which has made me wonder if itd had a remap at some point? Wishful thinkin most lilely, but would make sense. No receipt for it though
My last 172 had a huge kick at 5k, it was standard bar an air filter.
My 182 has cat back exhaust and enclosed ram fed filter, the kick isn't so violent but the bottom end is a lot smoother and it has no flat spot around 3.5 - 4k which the 172 did have...
The 182 has no flat spot at all, and the 5k kick isn't so harsh and it seems a lot gruntier throughout the rev range which has made me wonder if itd had a remap at some point? Wishful thinkin most lilely, but would make sense. No receipt for it though
Oh, I didn't know more expensive was better.
Let me go buy this:
But are we really having the debate? It's all down to preference lol.
Let me go buy this:
But are we really having the debate? It's all down to preference lol.
Only if you pay in Ugandan Dollars!
1995 Renault Clio 1.8 16v
Civics? They've come down finally, can get a perfectly nice 53 plate with 100k and full history for less then 3k now, was offered a minter for 2.5k the other week but turned it down (girlfriend has one so can drive that if I fancy screaming the nuts off something).
Most valuable bit of a type r is the engine, it is a marvel, the rest isn't as good.
Much like a golf they have commanded a higher price than rivals for no real good reason, but people see through it eventually.
I much prefer my Clio to my old type r, or my Mrs' type r, it's just a f**king bonus that it's cheaper! Only thing erred about the civic is how much better it pulls when going over 125 or so, 145 comes up so easy in the civic, clio, not so easy...!
Oh, I didn't know more expensive was better.
Let me go buy this:
But are we really having the debate? It's all down to preference lol.
That car is FUGLY !! ( and so's the girl/boy )
Abit off topic, but why is there a 182 in that video with 172 alloys?!
cause in France I believe that is what they fitted on the 182 ! Correct me if I am wrong
I thought that but at the end of the video it has silver 182 wheels. I think the first clip you see is a 172 due to the black dad light inserts.
1995 Renault Clio 1.8 16v
Definitely true, FN2 was refined but lost all raw aggressive feeling!
Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
Here we go again!
The VVT is not the kick. The VVT comes in at about 1650rpm and switches back about 6500rpm from memory, the '5k kick' is the engine getting to VE, or coming 'on cam' in old speak. VVT has nothing to do with that kick.
Do fully agree that in 99% of cases a decat will fail an mot, and although they are no 8000rpm Honda, they do rev freely to 7000 rpm and are safe to do so, and do pull hard up the higher revs with a few mods
100% spot on!!!
I see what chip means you don't sleep mike!
Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
The kick is also overemphasised by Renault pulling out a load of ign timing just before hand, to make the engine lack a bit of power at that point. That's why with a re-map the kick feels much less aggressive. It's also the reason they become slightly better on fuel as the added ign timing makes the engine more efficient
Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
I'll sleep when I'm dead! Lol
My philosophy too. Sleep takes up precious time lol
hi! in my "new" 182 I can't really feel that kick... I had clio 182 before and it was quite noticable... In new I got K tec ultra perfomance, old one has original exhaust, may that be the reason?
Also on idle its quite rough, sometimes its vary from 900 to 1200.... any ideas what to check first?
Also on idle its quite rough, sometimes its vary from 900 to 1200.... any ideas what to check first?
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Maybe it already has the RS Tuner map on it?
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