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Apex springs are ok tbf. I don't see every1's problem with them. People must just be being picky. Little bit worse than eibech, ride wise (bit crashy) but the stance is so much better. Seemed to be less bodyroll on the track compared to my old prolines also.
No, PORTY's 172 has no spacers. His oz f1's are ex-cup racer mag wheels and have a wider offset.
Think I may get some Apex at some point, at my last meet some1 had Apex and ride height was spot on! Also loving the turinis and if you get bored of em can always go black where's cheapest place to get those springs these days if you don't mind me asking?
Just get nearly new 2nd hand ones. Can pick them up for £50-£90 (off here or the bay) and if u don't like them, sell them for what u bought them for. It's a win win situation that's what I did anyway.