Anyone changed pads & discs?

[.J.a.m.e.s.]

It's time for me to get new pads and discs. I'm going to give these a go myself, well that was the plan. I'm unsure weather or not to get the garage to do it as I haven't done it before. I have an 04 reg 182 are these a good price?

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=281077355493

 

[E5CDW]

Yeah that's a good price as they include the bearings! Depending on the state of the current brakes it might be worth getting a brake pad fitting kit aswell.

 

[.J.a.m.e.s.]

A fitting kit? I have been watching a few guides on YouTube and it seems simple enough with a hammer and screw driver? Or am I missing something?

 

[Typhoon]

Absolute doddle to be fair mate.
If you weren't so far I'd have been more than happy to give you a hand.

 

[Gus]

Do it your self, its pretty easy. Just make sure you have everything you need before you start - 30mm big socket (or whatever it is) , g clamp for the front caliper, copper grease etc.

 

[.J.a.m.e.s.]

It's just the rears that need doing.
Any other tips to watch out for?
Thanks Typhoon! Yeah I'm a fair bit away from you

 

[Cub.]

As said, it's not overly difficult and a good way into getting more handy with the spanners.

You do need some kit though, and take things steady / safely.

 

[imprezaworks]

Buy the stuff off @George@RTR_Parts

Help the traders, excellent service etc
And the chances are if you asked him nicely he would tell you how to do it

 

[bozothenutter]

find someone that can check your work..they are your brakes after all
work safely (axlestands etc)
work where ppl know you are working on a car (not in some lonely alley somewhere)
don't use coppergrease but ceramic grease
use a torque wrench
follow the guides
come here wit questions
have fun.

 

[Ol’ Tarby]

There's a guide in the guides section for rear brakes iirc. Its pretty easy anyway, only 7 bolts including taking the wheels off.

Oh and as said, buy from George

 

[Typhoon]

find someone that can check your work..they are your brakes after all
work safely (axlestands etc)
work where ppl know you are working on a car (not in some lonely alley somewhere)
don't use coppergrease but ceramic grease
use a torque wrench
follow the guides
come here wit questions
have fun.

What's wrong with coppergrease? As long as it doesn't get on the face of the disc or face of the pads?

 

[bozothenutter]

What's wrong with coppergrease? As long as it doesn't get on the face of the disc or face of the pads?

coppergrease conducts electricity, it's reccomended for use on ABS equipped cars

 

[Typhoon]

coppergrease conducts electricity, it's reccomended for use on ABS equipped cars

Thank God I have an ABS equipped car Lol

 

[RS Charlie]

What's wrong with coppergrease? As long as it doesn't get on the face of the disc or face of the pads?

It congeals and turns almost solid. There is a reason why it is called anti-seize and not lubricating :wink:. I have deseized so many sticking sliders (including my current 172) from people who have previously used Copper Grease (and I cannot tell if it was the reason for my issue) discs and pads to due premature wear as a result of the pads getting stuck in the caliper. Ceramic Grease (or Brake grease) is not that expensive anyway.

One specialist said to me to only go to Renault for the rear discs, saying the quality of the bearings in cheaper parts were questionable. You're saving on labour if you're changing them yourself anyway. That price doesn't look too bad at all it has to be said.

IMO read up a guide or the Haynes. Take your time and all should be fine. Yes they are brakes but I have seen my share of garages bodge up such things as well, some of which who should know better.

 

[E5CDW]

By fitting kit I ment a kit with new pins and clips in case yours are seized in.

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/351239951949?nav=SEARCH

 

[Gus]

By fitting kit I ment a kit with new pins and clips in case yours are seized in.

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/351239951949?nav=SEARCH

Nice ! deffo going to get a set of those.

 

[.J.a.m.e.s.]

It congeals and turns almost solid. There is a reason why it is called anti-seize and not lubricating :wink:. I have deseized so many sticking sliders (including my current 172) from people who have previously used Copper Grease (and I cannot tell if it was the reason for my issue) discs and pads to due premature wear as a result of the pads getting stuck in the caliper. Ceramic Grease (or Brake grease) is not that expensive anyway.

One specialist said to me to only go to Renault for the rear discs, saying the quality of the bearings in cheaper parts were questionable. You're saving on labour if you're changing them yourself anyway. That price doesn't look too bad at all it has to be said.

IMO read up a guide or the Haynes. Take your time and all should be fine. Yes they are brakes but I have seen my share of garages bodge up such things as well, some of which who should know better.

I have watched about 5 different videos on youtube and it looks straight forward enough

What's wrong with coppergrease? As long as it doesn't get on the face of the disc or face of the pads?

Is it absolutely compulsary to use copper grease / ceramic grease?

find someone that can check your work..they are your brakes after all
work safely (axlestands etc)
work where ppl know you are working on a car (not in some lonely alley somewhere)
don't use coppergrease but ceramic grease
use a torque wrench
follow the guides
come here wit questions
have fun.

I dont have a torque wrench - is this a must??

And finally question to all.... the ones I found on ebay... why are the black, shouldnt they be silver?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RENAULT-C...493?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item41718413e5

 

[warwickstingray]

Yes you need a torque wrench. Either do it properly or don't. I usually give the caliper a full inspection, checking all seals, clips and surfaces etc, Clean as much as is practical, use the proper grease and follow a bedding in procedure for the new brakes. There are good reasons for it all!! Bear in mind the pistons may not even go back into the calipers if they have been neglected. A brake piston tool might free it off or it's a replacement caliper.

Brakes are pretty important even if they are just the rears so don't scrimp on parts or cut corners. Copper grease is a good anti seize grease for parts fitted in hot places but that's it.

 

[masekwm]

@.J.a.m.e.s. http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7004243.htm

 

[dablk]

You also potentially need to also get a new hub nuts and the spacer that goes behind. George stocks them all.
I use a torque wrench, especially with anything which makes you stop or steer. Others won't, you pay your money and take your chance on that one.
Those black discs will be silver after one press of the brake.

 

[Budgie]

TBH, i'd just find someone local who would do it for a few beer tokens and watch how it's done for next time.

 

[StuOwen86]

@.J.a.m.e.s. I got @bloke to do mine (he isn't a million miles away I'm only in Widnes and for what he charges seem's pointless doing it myself) car is currently in with him having PMS top mounts and brace fitted and tbf I would highly recommend him as he know's his stuff plus you get too see all them Clio's looks like a Renault Dealers @Chi lol

 

[imprezaworks]

Mine will be there tomo too

 

[.J.a.m.e.s.]

I would really like to have a go myself (plus save a bit of cash)
It's just the tourqe wrench

Is it basically something that tells you when the bolt is tight enough?

Surely you would just tighten it as much as possibly? You don't want it loose?

 

[imprezaworks]

Mate imo just get someone off here local to help and show you the ropes. Im far froma mechanic but even i know what a torque wrench does.

But. Bolts and all the jazz need to be tight, not over tight. There are guides on the settings that stuff needs to be torqued too. Lets say bolt A needs to be 110nm, set bar to 110nm and tighten until it goes 'click click'.

 

[.J.a.m.e.s.]

Mate imo just get someone off here local to help and show you the ropes. Im far froma mechanic but even i know what a torque wrench does.

But. Bolts and all the jazz need to be tight, not over tight. There are guides on the settings that stuff needs to be torqued too. Lets say bolt A needs to be 110nm, set bar to 110nm and tighten until it goes 'click click'.

Yeh I understand the principle of it now lol.
I'm sure my mate will have one. What does "nm" stand for?

 

[imprezaworks]

Newton Metres mate

 

[Darren S]

With the new rears that you'll be buying (and another shout here for @George@RTR_Parts on here) - make sure that the washer goes the correct way around.

If not, your new rear discs will have bearing failure much, much quicker than normal. Been there - done that myself, on one side of the car. :wink:

 

[Owen92]

Personally think that for your own safety, as you are unsure of what you are doing, they you should do the brakes with someone that knows how to do it.
They'll show you the correct way of doing it, you'll learn and it'll still be cheaper than a garage. Most importantly it'll be done safely.