Apple 8/X

[Knuckles]

What I don’t understand is they were happy to fit the cameras in that stupid black band up the top, why not have a matching one down the bottom for a Touch is scanner that doesn’t need to be as big as the button on current phones

Or move the band up and shorten the screen slightly rather than cutting some of it out?

 

[Jaff.]

Or move the band up and shorten the screen slightly rather than cutting some of it out?

Coz then it’s not an edge to edge display duhhhh!

 

[Adamm.]

The top band should have just gone all the way along the top rather than sticking out. That would do my head in when watching video's.

 

[botfch]

I'd guess for videos it will just cut them down to the edge of the band.

I don't see why they didn't find a away to keep the Touch ID somewhere on the phone, on the sides or back etc.
If they add it back into the next phone this one will be seen a a bit of a failure.

 

[JamesBryan]

Touch ID was slow as f**k from what I've seen of it. Not a patch on my Pixel XL tbh. About time they updated it to something faster really.

 

[Knuckles]

Touch ID was slow as f**k from what I've seen of it. Not a patch on my Pixel XL tbh. About time they updated it to something faster really.

It was very meh on The 5s (iirc that's the one that introduced it), amazing on the 6s and I assume on the 7 too. But it's abysmal on the iPad Pro.

I don't know what they got wrong but it's properly useless to the point that I don't even bother any more.

The iPad Pro was released at the same time as the 6s iirc and the difference in responsiveness is night and day

 

[JamesBryan]

It was very meh on The 5s (iirc that's the one that introduced it), amazing on the 6s and I assume on the 7 too. But it's abysmal on the iPad Pro.

I don't know what they got wrong but it's properly useless to the point that I don't even bother any more.

The iPad Pro was released at the same time as the 6s iirc and the difference in responsiveness is night and day

Ahh right I assumed they were all the same.

 

[Knuckles]

Ahh right I assumed they were all the same.

Me too. What a let down that was lol

 

[SC03OTT]

So just to sum up, FaceID is crap. Even though literally nobody here has used it.

 

[Daz...]

Touch ID was slow as f**k from what I've seen of it. Not a patch on my Pixel XL tbh. About time they updated it to something faster really.

Touch ID is perfect on the 7.

 

[sn00p]

So just to sum up, FaceID is crap. Even though literally nobody here has used it.

Apples demo didn’t work and had to resort to a backup unit.

People who had time with the units in the hands on area said it’s very finicky and doesn’t appear to be that great.

The mechanism is more longwinded than touchid.

That’s what we know.

 

[aucky]

So just to sum up, FaceID is crap. Even though literally nobody here has used it.

All the android users have apprently.

Apples demo didn’t work and had to resort to a backup unit.

People who had time with the units in the hands on area said it’s very finicky and doesn’t appear to be that great.

The mechanism is more longwinded than touchid.

That’s what we know.

Doesn't it take a little time to 'learn' your face though? Unlikely to happen in a little demo session.

As for the keynote f**k up, who knows.

 

[sn00p]

All the android users have apprently.

Doesn't it take a little time to 'learn' your face though? Unlikely to happen in a little demo session.

As for the keynote f**k up, who knows.

The phones were trained to a specific Apple employee not random demo people. The Apple employees had to unlock the phones, the people playing with the units were not able to do it themselves.

 

[Ay Ay Ron]

Touch ID is perfect on the 7.

Is it?
Mine must be broke on my work phone then because it works about 25% of the time compared to 99% of the time on my Nexus 6p.

I've reset it countless times and it's still shite.

 

[sn00p]

Is it?
Mine must be broke on my work phone then because it works about 25% of the time compared to 99% of the time on my Nexus 6p.

I've reset it countless times and it's still shite.

That’s definitely not right.

My 7 plus very rarely requires me to give it a second tap.

 

[Daz...]

Is it?
Mine must be broke on my work phone then because it works about 25% of the time compared to 99% of the time on my Nexus 6p.

I've reset it countless times and it's still shite.

Definitely something not right with that. Mine works every time, and fast too. I've never had to reset it either.

 

[AdDaMan]

Same. Mine is rapid. And faultless. Unless I have cum on my thumb.

 

[paddymph]

Yep. 7 plus Touch ID is ultra fast. It’s literally unlocked as I touch it. It’s honestly tenths of a second

 

[Matt W]

Mine is perfect on the 5s.

 

[sn00p]

Same. Mine is rapid. And faultless. Unless I have cum on my thumb.

Your own or somebody else’s?

 

[AdDaMan]

Your own or somebody else’s?

Touch ID fails with either.

 

[Herr Flick]

Looking forward to the Samsung X now. Atleast that will have something new.
Samsung fan boi for lyfe.

 

[Gally]

Flol at wireless charging being amazing! That part brought the lols. Always one thing that is years late. And the charger will be white an mental money!

On to the X, the bezeless display it it not. Have you seen the size of the frame of the phone? It might be the body but it still looks like a massive bezel on each side.

The design looks backwards compared with 7/8 imo.

Obviously face id is the latest and greatest... Again years late!

They could have gone for rear sensor which is so easy and give the people what they want but... They're apple and that's too android looking for them.

 

[Stay Puft]

My touch ID only works 50% of the time, and mostly end up using the psscode automatically

 

[MarkCup]

...99% of the time on my Nexus 6p.

My 6p works 100% of the time. I genuinely can't remember the last time it didn't read my fingerprint correctly that wasn't a f*** up on my part. In fact I don't think it ever has.

 

[Ay Ay Ron]

My 6p works 100% of the time. I genuinely can't remember the last time it didn't read my fingerprint correctly that wasn't a f*** up on my part. In fact I don't think it ever has.

I only think the 1% is me slightly missing the reader or having oily/dirty fingers.

 

[sn00p]

(before I get called an Android fanboi, I own an iPhone 7 plus, 4 macs, several apple TV's and a watch)....

 

[MarkCup]

I only think the 1% is me slightly missing the reader or having oily/dirty fingers.

Then we'll put you down at 100%. My f*** ups are when I forget I'm wearing gloves or use the wrong, non-scanned, finger.

Android rocks etc.

I'm loving Oreo, updated this morning, one tweak has made my day LOL

 

[DrR]

Am I the only one that has every finger and my bell end registered on my Touch ID

 

[Al_G]

Im torn between an 8 and an X...No idea what to go for.

Will be interesting to see tariff costs are like

 

[boultonn]

Im torn between an 8 and an X...No idea what to go for.

What have you got at the minute?
I'd defo say X if you can manage, as I think the 8 will be superseded next year, whereas the X will probably remain best for a couple of years

 

[charltjr]

Next generation X (X S?) will have touchID in the display IMO, they wanted it for this gen but the technology to make it work in such a slim package with OLED isn't quite there yet. It will be interesting to see how FaceID works in reality, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now but I can't see how it's going to be as convenient as TouchID. Would be rare for Apple to make a usability c**k up like that but it has happened.

 

[Knuckles]

Next generation X (X S?) will have touchID in the display IMO, they wanted it for this gen but the technology to make it work in such a slim package with OLED isn't quite there yet. It will be interesting to see how FaceID works in reality, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now but I can't see how it's going to be as convenient as TouchID. Would be rare for Apple to make a usability c**k up like that but it has happened.

If face id is a bit iffy in its first incarnation, the following versions will be epic.

Like the first Touch ID. You had to either click to wake then use Touch ID to unlock or click the home button, pause, then release to unlock the phone. In the updated phones, it was instant. Click to unlock.

If face Id has some quirks at first, it'll be ironed out in the future and you'll end up lifting the phone to wake without touching anything

 

[Al_G]

What have you got at the minute?
I'd defo say X if you can manage, as I think the 8 will be superseded next year, whereas the X will probably remain best for a couple of years

I've got a 6 mate, battery is w**k.

Yeah, I agree regarding the 8. If I could I'd hold out another 12 months but I'm not sure if that'll be feasible.

 

[imprezaworks]

What are the tariff costs etc

 

[JamesBryan]

Apparently the fail on stage at the launch was due to someone/people handling the phone beforehand and it was trying to scan their face.

It asks for a passcode after 2 unsuccessful attempts, which when the guy came to use it it did.

That's an unconfirmed explaination, but it sounds plausible to me.

 

[Chrisgti6]

What are the tariff costs etc

We won't know until pre order date I wouldn't imagine. So tomorrow for the 8 and Oct for the X

 

[JamesBryan]

Probably £60-70 a month for the X 😂

 

[imprezaworks]

We won't know until pre order date I wouldn't imagine. So tomorrow for the 8 and Oct for the X

Ah cool. Not getting one/haven't followed the phone but was curious

 

[Goodj]

I think the 8 will be superseded next year, whereas the X will probably remain best for a couple of years

Unlikely.
It'll get the same treatment as all other Apple portables, and be no better than a brick in 3 years.