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Attemping boosted ph1
- Thread starter danh90
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Ph1 T
So basically ill be plumbing the top of the turbo 40mm outlet into the intercooler then other end of the intercooler into TB. Then the inlet 63mm will be connecting upto my air filter,,
Going to need a few reducers then as my intercooler holes are 63mm which will need to go down to 40 and the other is 51 which needs to go 70.. That sound about right :/ lol
Going to need a few reducers then as my intercooler holes are 63mm which will need to go down to 40 and the other is 51 which needs to go 70.. That sound about right :/ lol
Yes that sounds right now mate.
Closest I have to a relevant picture (from my nova):
So its from the Air filter to the intake to the turbo in the centre, then outlet from the "snail" (which by the way you can rotate to any angle you want to make it easier to plumb in) then goes to the intercooler, then from the intercooler into the throttle.
Make sure the turbo oil inlet to the core is at the TOP, and the return at the BOTTOM, it relies on gravity to keep the seals from seeing oil backing up around them.
Both housings cant be rotated, so if the oil ways are wrong then rotate the exhaust housing till they are right, then once those are sorted turn the inlet to where you want it.
Closest I have to a relevant picture (from my nova):
So its from the Air filter to the intake to the turbo in the centre, then outlet from the "snail" (which by the way you can rotate to any angle you want to make it easier to plumb in) then goes to the intercooler, then from the intercooler into the throttle.
Make sure the turbo oil inlet to the core is at the TOP, and the return at the BOTTOM, it relies on gravity to keep the seals from seeing oil backing up around them.
Both housings cant be rotated, so if the oil ways are wrong then rotate the exhaust housing till they are right, then once those are sorted turn the inlet to where you want it.
Ph1 T
Right spot on I get it all now thanks alot chip.. the way it was on before was like that oil feed to top and return at the bottom
That's looks some epic machine you've got there btw lol
I've got a few pics of bits I'm unsure of mate If I could fire them over to you see what's what that'd be great
That's looks some epic machine you've got there btw lol
I've got a few pics of bits I'm unsure of mate If I could fire them over to you see what's what that'd be great
Yeah that shouldn't be an issue, its preferred if you don't reduce it back down after that but it isn't possible with some of these conversions. I,e your intercooler inlet should be same size or smaller than the outlet which isn't the case with yours from you've said.
The bigger the piping and intercooler the longer in theory it takes to build boost in those lines giving you turbo lag. Shouldn't matter too much on your low pressure setup but its best to match your turbo's capability's/output to your pipe work and plumbing.
The bigger the piping and intercooler the longer in theory it takes to build boost in those lines giving you turbo lag. Shouldn't matter too much on your low pressure setup but its best to match your turbo's capability's/output to your pipe work and plumbing.
Ph1 T
Yeah the inlet on the intercooler is 63mm and outlet on the turbo is 40mm. Just been on the phone to order the bits apparently I can't get a 63-40 reducer what are my options? Do it in another stage?
So are you saying it would be better running the pipe work from the outlet to the intercooler in 40mm then go bigger when come to the intercooler?
So are you saying it would be better running the pipe work from the outlet to the intercooler in 40mm then go bigger when come to the intercooler?
Ph1 T
Lol best get building a 700bhp ph1 then lol that sounds best then doing it that way need to hurry up and get these pipes ordered cheers for help btw finally understand it..
Also the turbo I have I was told was the garrett t28 but it doesn't have t28 anywhere stamped on it. Has the garrett stamp I'm just questioning as I'm sure I've seen the t28 turbo and it had the stamp on :/
Also the turbo I have I was told was the garrett t28 but it doesn't have t28 anywhere stamped on it. Has the garrett stamp I'm just questioning as I'm sure I've seen the t28 turbo and it had the stamp on :/
TBH for what he is doing, providing its not the utter rubbish off ebay he will be fine, Ive used silicon hoses ones at over 600bhp and over 2 bar of boost with NO problems.
Sometimes people get carried away making 4 ply hoses etc, its simply not required unless you are planning on runing 10 bar on a tractor pull engine or something!
Sometimes people get carried away making 4 ply hoses etc, its simply not required unless you are planning on runing 10 bar on a tractor pull engine or something!
batesey
ClioSport Club Member
172 Cup Turbo
I agree with strength, people do get carried away, i purely go there because the wrapping is perfect and not all over the place... im just picky on how things look lol
iceberg 172
What type of power are you planning to get from this turbo
iceberg 172
Is that max or just on standerd internals
The internals are more of an issue than the turbo, only takes a couple of hours to change turbo and they arent dear.
iceberg 172
Thought a turbo was around 900 for a garret thats the same as internals but surpose fitting is going to add up
172 cup, Impreza P1
Here's what you need.
51mm to 38mm would do.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Straight-...aterials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item43ab859119
70mm to 63mm.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLUE-Sili...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4608f03d0b
51mm to 38mm would do.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Straight-...aterials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item43ab859119
70mm to 63mm.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLUE-Sili...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4608f03d0b
iceberg 172
They dont pop up often used tho . What car could you get a turbo from to see 250 - 300 bhpa new unit maybe but why would someone fit a new unit to an old car?
although i have a brand new gt28rs on a '86 R9 but it was a bargain
172 cup, Impreza P1
A megane 225 should see 270.
Ph1 T
Just ordered my bits now from ASH
51mm to 38mm reducer elbow (turbo outlet 51mm all way down to intercooler)
70mm to 51mm reducer ekbow (from TB straight to intercooler)
63mm to 51mm reducer elbow (turbo outlet 51mm to 63 straight onto intercooler)
4 X 51mm 90 bends
3 X 51mm 45 bends
63mm straight
63 mm 45 bend
2 metre of 51mm alloy pipe
1 metre of 63mm alloy pipe
thats enough to get me started.. oh and tried a cheeky dicount code i found from june on google it worked and saved me £30
51mm to 38mm reducer elbow (turbo outlet 51mm all way down to intercooler)
70mm to 51mm reducer ekbow (from TB straight to intercooler)
63mm to 51mm reducer elbow (turbo outlet 51mm to 63 straight onto intercooler)
4 X 51mm 90 bends
3 X 51mm 45 bends
63mm straight
63 mm 45 bend
2 metre of 51mm alloy pipe
1 metre of 63mm alloy pipe
thats enough to get me started.. oh and tried a cheeky dicount code i found from june on google it worked and saved me £30
Ph1 T
if you messed about with other stuff couldnt the t28 see that power?
172 cup, Impreza P1
Not sure about the t28 but the gt2860 has been seen to 340 so it is possible.
Ph1 T
Which way would you go mate? The way is planned it went from 38 to 51 then 51 to 63 at intercooler then the 70-53 was TB end
172 cup, Impreza P1
Don't see why not. Won't make too much difference I would think on power but would give you less of a step up, step down route.
172 cup, Impreza P1
I would go 38 (turbo) to 51 (intercooler inlet) then 63 (intercooler outlet) to 70 (tb). Seems the easiest way to me.
I used 63 all the way so there is space and I didnt know what power level I wanted so over specced just in case.
