Lol! I have enough ballast to last me a lifetime m
Joking aside though, and maybe I am too trusting and naive, but if someone enters with mods to the engine, then its a pretty poor show in a class like this. The whole point is to get it as close and competitive as possible. If you cheat, you're ultimately only cheating yourself. Personally, I'd be entering it for the fun, close quarters jostling of racing and to develop my skills before considering other race classes in the future. As long as I enjoy it, I'm not fussed if I came last or first. Obviously I'd aim for podiums, as racing is about winning, but I wouldn't cheat to get there. If others do, then they would know they were hollow victories and I'm sure they would be found out eventually.
But you can have 10bhp difference between a good 182 engine and a poor 172 engine with out any cheating at all.
If someone won knowing they cheated im guessing it wouldnt phase them one bit. To cheat to begin with shows no _______ can't think of the word.
From the experienced racers, what does a typical entry cost you?
Fuel to get there, fuel to race, entry, tyres etc.
I've been budgeting for £1000 per meeting.
Remove the Sach's maybe?Daniel, I apologise for not reading the full thread, just making a quick response based upon your first post, I'll now go back and read through the full thing.
but why exclude Trophy's?
Remove the Sach's maybe?
Morals
B0ll0cks
spine
Integrity
Choose from any of those.
That was discussed yesterday Andy, as Tony suggested he or others -James, Ian etc could be consulted if needs be.Scrutineering would be a right laugh. They would need to know Clio's inside and out to see what isn't standard and what is or what shouldn't be there.
That was discussed yesterday Andy, as Tony suggested he or others -James, Ian etc could be consulted if needs be.
Remove the Sach's maybe?
I should be allowed a turbo, as I'm 'chunky'. Lol!
Brilliant idea, christ got me thinking...
Allowed silvervisions?
Daniel, I was about ten feet away when you were at the Burpspeed hospitality marquee. I was going to come and say hi but before I knew it you'd disappeared.
Back to everybody saying about cheating, this is supposed to be grassroots and so half the point, is just allowing those of us without silly budgets, to take a step up from track days. If you have as much as standard as possible, then it eliminates the possibilities of cheating as much as possible. On an F4R without a load of other mods, how much extra will you get out of a bit of headwork? I'd have thought that the majority of us looking to enter were of similar skill level and therefore local track knowledge would outweigh any power advantage. I'd be pretty confident at Mallory and Donington, as I've done them a few times. I'd be around middle at Oulton as I've done it once and probably at the back at Cadwell and Brands etc. as I've never driven them.
Sam, don't agree on suspension sorry mate. IMHO standard shocks and a choice of spring is fine, as it won't make that much difference between setups. It's more about making the most out of what you've got.
I should be allowed a turbo, as I'm 'chunky'. Lol!
Exactly!Sod it for that price I'd drive the car to the circuit, race it and drive it home again. If it got trashed I'd get it recovered via a friendly company I use at work.
You may as well just enter the higher class if that's the case.The car will be much more entertaining and rewarding on something more suitable and not a lot more expensive or even less than a full suspension refresh. You've got to keep cost down but you dont want to limit entertainment or driver reward.
Naith BD would need some standard rear shocks
You may as well just enter the higher class if that's the case.
I don't x the basic principle of the series is to take a standard RS, strip it, cage it and get out there.I think you're missing my point lol
The more I think about it, the minimum weight/max bhp could be the answer.
Covers a lot of areas!
FAO everyone, Chip is prohibited from entering.
I think it should be an invite only series. Like the masons. But less corrupt.
I'm up for this potentially, would come down to cost at the end of the day
And how you would stop cheats as people already saying they're going to cheat is off putting