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Beaniemoo's Euro Saxo project
- Thread starter Beaniemoo
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Willy
Looks ace, had a long look at it at FCS and work looks top notch 
I was too scared to get too close to them alloys
I was too scared to get too close to them alloys 
Some of a Clio 1.8 16v
Hello there, were back with a small update.
Thank you for all the comments, good and bad, nice to hear what everyone thinks.
Right, updates on the car are, I'm still fighting the good battle with the dice valve caps, I've now replaced 5 of them!!!! Glad they are fairly cheap.
As well as that we've begun on the interior, only small update at the moment but its looking a lot better.
Ever since replacing the roof skin I've not had a headlining or radio areial in the car.
So last weekend I went the A5 salvage (local citroen breakers) to get a headlining (£10 if I removed it myself, result) and while I was there I managed to get an interior light with a map light, infa-red pick up and no sunroof handle (also result).
Then this weekend while the headlining was still out we fitted a window mount aerial.
Next, I've always wanted a black headlining in my car so during the week I got myself some suede and some spray glue.
We set about trimming it and fitting it to the car! We even drafted in my mum to help iron it and fit it!
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We also painted the interior light to match the headlining
I think it looks awesome and is a vast improvement, if a little dark inside the car.
The pillar trims wil be done soon, but got some deciding to do on other matters before commiting time and money to those
Hope you like
Thank you for all the comments, good and bad, nice to hear what everyone thinks.
Right, updates on the car are, I'm still fighting the good battle with the dice valve caps, I've now replaced 5 of them!!!! Glad they are fairly cheap.
As well as that we've begun on the interior, only small update at the moment but its looking a lot better.
Ever since replacing the roof skin I've not had a headlining or radio areial in the car.
So last weekend I went the A5 salvage (local citroen breakers) to get a headlining (£10 if I removed it myself, result) and while I was there I managed to get an interior light with a map light, infa-red pick up and no sunroof handle (also result).
Then this weekend while the headlining was still out we fitted a window mount aerial.
Next, I've always wanted a black headlining in my car so during the week I got myself some suede and some spray glue.
We set about trimming it and fitting it to the car! We even drafted in my mum to help iron it and fit it!
We also painted the interior light to match the headlining
I think it looks awesome and is a vast improvement, if a little dark inside the car.
The pillar trims wil be done soon, but got some deciding to do on other matters before commiting time and money to those
Hope you like
Roof looks much better than the standard one.
Golf GTi Mk2
I <3 you guys.
......and your mum
......and your mum
M
mini-valver
I really dont like the chrome boot handle, other that that its properly, properly nice
Some of a Clio 1.8 16v
This may be a huge post so I'll apologize in advance, I'll try to be breif with some of this, most of it was a huge amount of very difficult work, but the way its written may make it look quick and easy but trust us lol...
Since the last update we have been very busy, and I was hoping to keep everything quiet and have a big reveal at FCS, but it is looking less and less likely the car will be ready in time so I have decided to update my thread.
Right, the problem we were having with my car is it looks amazing, but just under the skin it was still a scruffy '98 VTS so we decided we wanted to address the engine bay.
This is what we had to begin with
Not pretty as you can see, but using my christmas money I decided to bit tghe bullet and buy something a little different with a custom manifold
So then with the seed of the idea of a smoothed engine bay planted in our heads we decided to start stripping the old engine bay and did some test fittings
And just kept stripping
We decided we weren't going to do any half measures with this, so we purchased this...
With plans to remove the brakes, abs, most engine running components, we then needed to start the process of removing the front fuse and relay box, so we just continued to strip the car
We got the dash with loom, and body loom home and using a haynes manuel and a multimeter we attacked the dash loom to incorperate an Omex 200, half an engine loom and a new fuse and relay box.
We found a rather neat place to mount the Omex so you can't see it , but when you remove the dash fuse box cover you can access the serial port for mapping
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Also ran the engine loom through the dash loom into aneptune through panel connector that would go onto our new engine loom when we make it
New fuse and relay box incorperated into the dash loom to remove engine fuse box
Next thing to do was to address the pedal box, so eventhough it is listed for a Saxo, it in no way well fit without huge modifications. So we set about it.
Put the looms back in the car
Now when running bike carbs you need to hugely lower the fuel pressure as fuel injection runs 3.5 bar and a return, but the carbs run 3 psi and no fuel return. Most people seem to run fuel pressure regulators, but I think they are a bit big and unsightly for our engine bay so we decided to entirely repipe the car front to rear, remove the original pump from the sender unit and fit a Yamaha R1 interupter fuel pump inline in the car.
Also with the master cylinders now in the car, the bias adjustment now on the pedal box rather than on the rear axle and also having to run some kind of brake light switch we had to entirely re brake pipe the entire car, hiding them as we went
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As I said earlier this is only a very breif overview, this was all a HUGE amount of work.
With all the basics in an working in theory we decided to set about some more wiring, having seen how the hadlights are wired up we decided to set about hiding the wiring for the headlights.
To do this we ran the wiring the internal to the headlight, and out to a plug which would go into our new modified engine bay loom
So now with everything in an potentially working we set about building up and tidying up everything
Now it was time to build our own engine loom, with only the bare minimum
Unfortunately this is where I broke my phone and was thusly unable to take any pics or vids for possibly the most exciting part so far.
We got an Oddessy battery which is relocated under the drivers seat, and new with everything in and conntected we managed to load a map onto the Omex (eventually). We tested everything and surprisingly, everything works!!
Now with everything in place we managed to get it to FIRE UP AND RUN!!!!
This was with the car looking similar to how it does in this picture
Since the last update we have been very busy, and I was hoping to keep everything quiet and have a big reveal at FCS, but it is looking less and less likely the car will be ready in time so I have decided to update my thread.
Right, the problem we were having with my car is it looks amazing, but just under the skin it was still a scruffy '98 VTS so we decided we wanted to address the engine bay.
This is what we had to begin with
Not pretty as you can see, but using my christmas money I decided to bit tghe bullet and buy something a little different with a custom manifold
So then with the seed of the idea of a smoothed engine bay planted in our heads we decided to start stripping the old engine bay and did some test fittings
And just kept stripping
We decided we weren't going to do any half measures with this, so we purchased this...
With plans to remove the brakes, abs, most engine running components, we then needed to start the process of removing the front fuse and relay box, so we just continued to strip the car
We got the dash with loom, and body loom home and using a haynes manuel and a multimeter we attacked the dash loom to incorperate an Omex 200, half an engine loom and a new fuse and relay box.
We found a rather neat place to mount the Omex so you can't see it , but when you remove the dash fuse box cover you can access the serial port for mapping
Also ran the engine loom through the dash loom into aneptune through panel connector that would go onto our new engine loom when we make it
New fuse and relay box incorperated into the dash loom to remove engine fuse box
Next thing to do was to address the pedal box, so eventhough it is listed for a Saxo, it in no way well fit without huge modifications. So we set about it.
Put the looms back in the car
Now when running bike carbs you need to hugely lower the fuel pressure as fuel injection runs 3.5 bar and a return, but the carbs run 3 psi and no fuel return. Most people seem to run fuel pressure regulators, but I think they are a bit big and unsightly for our engine bay so we decided to entirely repipe the car front to rear, remove the original pump from the sender unit and fit a Yamaha R1 interupter fuel pump inline in the car.
Also with the master cylinders now in the car, the bias adjustment now on the pedal box rather than on the rear axle and also having to run some kind of brake light switch we had to entirely re brake pipe the entire car, hiding them as we went
As I said earlier this is only a very breif overview, this was all a HUGE amount of work.
With all the basics in an working in theory we decided to set about some more wiring, having seen how the hadlights are wired up we decided to set about hiding the wiring for the headlights.
To do this we ran the wiring the internal to the headlight, and out to a plug which would go into our new modified engine bay loom
So now with everything in an potentially working we set about building up and tidying up everything
Now it was time to build our own engine loom, with only the bare minimum
Unfortunately this is where I broke my phone and was thusly unable to take any pics or vids for possibly the most exciting part so far.
We got an Oddessy battery which is relocated under the drivers seat, and new with everything in and conntected we managed to load a map onto the Omex (eventually). We tested everything and surprisingly, everything works!!
Now with everything in place we managed to get it to FIRE UP AND RUN!!!!
This was with the car looking similar to how it does in this picture
Some of a Clio 1.8 16v
This was only for a short period though as, now with everything in and working it was time to strip it and tidy up and smooth everything to make the car aproper show stopper
Whilst we were doing this I also set about making my wheels better, I had a slight moment with a kurb and a front wheel, so I got the rims off, sold them and replaced the 2" front rims with 2.5" making my wheels 8.5" front and 9" rear.
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With the engine and everything out we set about smoothing the engine bay, we didn't want to completely smooth every undulation in every panel, just every hole and bracket etc
Whilst we were doing this we also decided to do the engine build.
For one reason and another we went from a VTS lump with ph3 cams and bike carbs to a full JP4 conversion, running wossner high comp piston, pec forged rods, arp bolts, gas flowed head, Newman Ph 4 cams, race big end and bottom end bearings and the R1 carbs.
This is as far as we've got with the engine, but on saturday the bay has finally been painted after loads and loads of prep to make the paint finish perfect!
Cheers for looking, again sorry for the HUGE post!
Hope you like?
Whilst we were doing this I also set about making my wheels better, I had a slight moment with a kurb and a front wheel, so I got the rims off, sold them and replaced the 2" front rims with 2.5" making my wheels 8.5" front and 9" rear.
With the engine and everything out we set about smoothing the engine bay, we didn't want to completely smooth every undulation in every panel, just every hole and bracket etc
Whilst we were doing this we also decided to do the engine build.
For one reason and another we went from a VTS lump with ph3 cams and bike carbs to a full JP4 conversion, running wossner high comp piston, pec forged rods, arp bolts, gas flowed head, Newman Ph 4 cams, race big end and bottom end bearings and the R1 carbs.
This is as far as we've got with the engine, but on saturday the bay has finally been painted after loads and loads of prep to make the paint finish perfect!
Cheers for looking, again sorry for the HUGE post!
Hope you like?
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Wow!
Wow, just WOW!!!!
Great builds you've got but I certainly dont envy you putting the engine back in with such top notch paint around it
Great builds you've got but I certainly dont envy you putting the engine back in with such top notch paint around it
The Boosh!
ClioSport Admin
Elise, Duster
:hail:
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
will be time for another feature for it soon
top work ladyboys
top work ladyboys
ITB'd MK1
I've had that conversation at least 4 times
Dont bother, they wanted as few wires as possible. Should be better than most as I've modded the manifold to actually fit the head
ITB'd MK1
Some of a Clio 1.8 16v
Yeah its a bogg brothers manifold, it had to be modified as it was originally for the Saxo VTS engine (TU5J4) but once purchased we ended up going for a later C2 VTS engine (TU5JP4) so it didn't qhite fit and needed modifying a bit.
As for the bike carbs, as Danny said, we only went for bike carbs to keep wiring to a minimum, we know all about throttle bodes (see our Clio project) and could have easily put it on them, but I personall don't think they look all that good on Saxos.
Feel free to PM us about the bike carbs and I'll try to help you out if you need?
Also Cheers everyone for all the nice comments.
Cheers Moo
As for the bike carbs, as Danny said, we only went for bike carbs to keep wiring to a minimum, we know all about throttle bodes (see our Clio project) and could have easily put it on them, but I personall don't think they look all that good on Saxos.
Feel free to PM us about the bike carbs and I'll try to help you out if you need?
Also Cheers everyone for all the nice comments.
Cheers Moo
TrackCar & F30 330d
Wow, those wheels look mint, its gona look excelent when its finished
Please could you tell me where you got the window mounted aerial?
halfords they are like 15 quid.
Clio 172 PH2 Flamer
Cant fault the skill and effort gone into this, just one slight thing playing on me though, are you not bothered about the orange peel on the satin black? especially as your engine bay looks nicer than the outside of the car? (except the vinyl roof, that is the nuts) Im not disliking the colour, just the finish of the black from the photos.
Ta, ebay didn't seem to have much.
ITB'd MK1
:S
I think you may be reading the wrong thread for you. You've missed the point by a long way
Clio 172 PH2 Flamer
I thought it was a retro euro project not a rat look? - if its meant to be a poor finish on the paint, then apologies
M
mini-valver
Did you not think about cutting the bulkhead/scuttle out before painting it?? Or would it expose the wiper motor etc too much for the way you're going with the build?
Some of a Clio 1.8 16v
We're back!
Quite an interesting update here.
We haven't done a lot to the car for a couple of weeks now as we have been waiting on parts.
But then on Friday everything finally arrived.
Lightened and balanced crank and flywheel.
Flywheel is lighened by 1.7Kg and Crankshaft lightened by 3.7Kg making quite a saving on the bottom end overall.
The weight saving is really apparent when you pick these parts up.
So I set about building up the engine, although I didn't get too far as it was only after work and I kept getting hassled by my mate and his car!
So with the engine finally coming together we realized that we had been slacking with the rest of the car, so today we set about building the car back up ready to recieve the engine.
We also set about making a bracket to hold the new fuse and relay box for behind the dash and mounting it.
And this is how the car looked by the end of today
Cheers for looking, hopfully more tomorrow
Quite an interesting update here.
We haven't done a lot to the car for a couple of weeks now as we have been waiting on parts.
But then on Friday everything finally arrived.
Lightened and balanced crank and flywheel.
Flywheel is lighened by 1.7Kg and Crankshaft lightened by 3.7Kg making quite a saving on the bottom end overall.
The weight saving is really apparent when you pick these parts up.
So I set about building up the engine, although I didn't get too far as it was only after work and I kept getting hassled by my mate and his car!
So with the engine finally coming together we realized that we had been slacking with the rest of the car, so today we set about building the car back up ready to recieve the engine.
We also set about making a bracket to hold the new fuse and relay box for behind the dash and mounting it.
And this is how the car looked by the end of today
Cheers for looking, hopfully more tomorrow
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