Big End Bearings & Rings

[ya53lhd_MATT]

Looking to source a big end bearing kit and a set of piston rings for all four cylinders for a Clio Cup 172 F4R. Have searched Google and it does't seem like anyone stocks them? Searched the forum and can only see some chap saying they were $80/per cylinder but with no reference to where he got them from?

Any help would be appreciated guys,

Many thanks,

Matt

 

[ya53lhd_MATT]

Have found the big end bearings from Engine Dynamics - £28.99 funnily enough they don't stock the rings though :/

 

[Chip-mk1]

Buy genuine from renault, not cheap pattern parts.

 

[ya53lhd_MATT]

Just spoke to Renault and they want £35.61 + vat per cylinder i expected to fall over by that seems pretty reasonable. I'm guessing there's vast difference in quality between pattern parts and genuine renault parts?

 

[ya53lhd_MATT]

Buy genuine from renault, not cheap pattern parts.

there not cheap pattern parts either, they were more expensive Engine Dynamics wanted £28.99 and Renault's were £24.99 on the big ends!!! Thanks Chip

 

[Chip-mk1]

Was the rings specifically I was on about mate when I said buy renault.

Pretty pricey at about 180 quid a set, when you think thats nearly half what a set of forged pistons cost and those come with rings, lol

 

[ya53lhd_MATT]

Whats the cheapest forged pistons? Guessing Wossener full stop?, but who sells them the cheapest?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Dont know TBH mate, I dont normally shop by price.

 

[Advikaz]

Dont know TBH mate, I dont normally shop by price.

+1

pay for what you get tbh.

 

[Dan519]

there not cheap pattern parts either, they were more expensive Engine Dynamics wanted £28.99 and Renault's were £24.99 on the big ends!!! Thanks Chip

renault price will be per journal pair, not for an enigne set


Rings are about £110 a set

 

[Chip-mk1]

renault price will be per journal pair, not for an enigne set


Rings are about £110 a set

That must be with your discount Dan, he has just been quoted over 40 quid per piston inc VAT

 

[Dan519]

I didn't say genuine did I.

 

[Laine_16v]

Google King components, they are in manchester but they next day delivered them to me for £7. I got this company from f0xy, he used them and so have his mates.

i used them on my F4 rebuild, they supply King bearings, they gaveme F9Q bearings for some reason half the shells were bimetallic ally, half were trimetallic copper, strange but they work perfeclty (designed for diesel engien higher loads?)


and Hastings Piston rings (biggest supplier in the USA aparently), so they can't be bad, ive had no issues whatsoever and the engine is quick, doesnt knock, and doesnt burn oil.

rings were £65+VAT, bearings were about £25 a set.

 

[ya53lhd_MATT]

Thanks mate, will look into King Components and Hasting Piston Rings now, (how long did the rings take to arrive, i'm guessing they're shipped from the states?)

 

[Laine_16v]

Thanks mate, will look into King Components and Hasting Piston Rings now, (how long did the rings take to arrive, i'm guessing they're shipped from the states?)

No, all the parts in stock, if you phone them up and make your order by about 4pm they overnight the parts to you for the next day, its a very fast serivce

 

[ya53lhd_MATT]

No, all the parts in stock, if you phone them up and make your order by about 4pm they overnight the parts to you for the next day, its a very fast serivce

thanks again, just out of interest, where abouts in cornwall are you from?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Ive seen some right rubbish from king. Personally wouldn't touch them for anything other than repairs on a banger.

 

[Laine_16v]

Ive seen some right rubbish from king. Personally wouldn't touch them for anything other than repairs on a banger.

Bit of a sweeping statement that.

Rubbish as in what King Components supply, or you dont like King Bearings. King Bearings and Hastings rings both have a good reputation on the internet.

 

[Chip-mk1]

King bearings I was referring to mate. Poor finish, poor sizing etc.

Maybe they are better now though as its ten years at least since I went near a set.

 

[ya53lhd_MATT]

I've chosen to get genuine parts from Renault, cheers for your opinions and suggestions

 

[Dan519]

FYI I use mahle, federal mogul, AE or ACL parts for engine internals. All are oe suppliers and all are cheaper than Renault but without quality suffering

 

[ya53lhd_MATT]

Very Useful, thanks! Ever used CAMTEC valves? ....

 

[Dan519]

no, but i've used BGA and FAI valves without issue

 

[Chip-mk1]

no, but i've used BGA and FAI valves without issue

Bga sell some real rubbish, some of their gaskets you would be better off using the piece of cardboard it comes packed in, stem seals too a lot of the time are poor too. They sell some good items as well though, bit of a lottery.

 

[Chip-mk1]

FYI I use mahle, federal mogul, AE or ACL parts for engine internals. All are oe suppliers and all are cheaper than Renault but without quality suffering

Likewise I use a lot of mahle or goetze parts direct, federal mogul and AE have differing quality lines though so you need to be careful which bits you trust or not.

Such a minefield for the man on the street sadly.

Renault are dear but at least the quality is good.