Billie or H&R coilovers??????

[pusherman]

Hi all,

i've got about £1500 to spend on my 172.

I've already earmarked £500 for some team dynamics pro race 1.2s with toyo R888s on.

Poly bushes + whiteline rear anti roll bar.

I'm stuck on teh suspension. cant choose between h&rs or billies????

im slightly wary of coilovers after the recent bad press in french cars mag on teh leda examples.

this is for a daily drive car that will see track abotu 5 or 6 times a year.

i just want less body roll, better handling and less understeer

 

[Fred@BTM]

LEDA got bad press for a reason, they shite on clios

anything German you can't go wrong, H&R if you're mainly a road user

 

[pusherman]

i fancy something that you can alter when you go on track like the koni top adjustables... can H&Rs or Billies do that????

whats the main difference between the billies and H&Rs?

 

[fmp_]

the difference is... the springs!

As H&R use Bilstein inserts.

 

[pusherman]

ah, hi matt hows it going? you got the scooby for the next llandow yet?

what were hte h&rs like on your 182?

pm me your best price mate

 

[pusherman]

i'm still stuck on teh benifit of getting coilovers over a decent shock and spring setup... like the koni & eibach setup in french cars (may issue)...???

 

[Fred@BTM]

the only major difference is the height adjustment

and also the shock size and quality, valving etc etc

 

[pusherman]

so would you recommend a decent shock & spring setup over coilovers providing i can get the springs the correct ride height?

 

[fmp_]

ah, hi matt hows it going? you got the scooby for the next llandow yet?

what were hte h&rs like on your 182?

pm me your best price mate

should be taking delivery in the next few weeks. cant wait... to say the least!

The H&R's were very good on the 182.

Let me crunch some numbers and i will PM you!

 

[Fred@BTM]

so would you recommend a decent shock & spring setup over coilovers providing i can get the springs the correct ride height?

well off the shelf 2.25/2.5 inch springs you can get anywhere

it depends on budget, H&R's are about £750, but then you have fitting and setup, (so budget £1K)

shocks and springs can be done for way way way less

 

[pusherman]

well i've got enough to get h&rs... i'll fit myself and then get it set up somewhere...

i think i'll go for H&Rs as i can have the option of height adjustment too.

yeah i'll await your pm matt.

cheers
Tom

 

[Steviant]

LEDA got bad press for a reason, they s**te on clios

anything German you can't go wrong, H&R if you're mainly a road user

FPMSL, Fred, you are a joke. Of they are shite on clio's. that's why the fastest car around Brands last Monday was a clio fitted with Leda's.

Anyone takes your advice, is almost as big an idiot as you.

 

[Fred@BTM]

ah Stevie, you're normally so nice to me! only reason was becuase our car wasn't there!

 

[Steviant]

ah Stevie, you're normally so nice to me! only reason was becuase our car wasn't there stevie!

Your car ain't on Leda's.

You've never owned a 172/182 with Leda's on it. So how you can say they're not good on a clio is a joke.

I just think it's not doing you or Yozz's company any favours, if you contantly **** off products you don't sell.

Now, I'm being nice.

 

[Fred@BTM]

i have however fitted a few sets and driven several clios with them fitted, R&D isn't in their terminology

 

[Tony Hunter]

As Harry Hill would say FIGHT

 

[Steviant]

FPMSL, nice one Tony.

I really couldn't care less. At the end of the day, anyone who is spending a lot of money on their car, should buy what they want, not just be influenced by what people are trying to sell them.

 

[Fred@BTM]

shame LEDA went bust though

 

[S22 JGS]

Popcorn and fizzy in hand, this is a good watch!

 

[Fred@BTM]

you know me steve, i'm just little mr opinionated, i'll stay quiet now, right up until the point i whoop yo ass at FCS

where do i buy driving gloves from?

 

[Steviant]

you know me steve, i'm just little mr opinionated, i'll stay quiet now, right up until the point i whoop yo ass at FCS

where do i buy driving gloves from?

PMSL, you are so funny about wanting to race me. Well let's see it shouldn't be too difficult for you. Considering Yoz's car is on thottle bodies, and secondly I'm not coming to the FCS.

Oh, and I wasn't talking about my car at Brands. Cos I don't big myself up like you do.

 

[Fred@BTM]

no, not using the yoz car, using my dynacup!!!

 

[Gary G]

Haha, now I remember why I miss clio sport!

http://leda.com/index.htm

Get your facts straight Fred

 

[Steviant]

who was fastest round brands? Steve with his blue one?



Well done! You got something right.

 

[Tom]

Is the dynacup ready?

Nothing wrong with leda's fella, far more track focused than the H&R's

Plus for some unknown reason the 182 H&r's arent as good as the cup with the same setup.

 

[Steviant]

Haha, now I remember why I miss clio sport!

http://leda.com/index.htm

Get your facts straight Fred

PMSL, Hi Gary,

It's so much fun. Nothing ever changes.

Steve

 

[Fred@BTM]

Haha, now I remember why I miss clio sport!

http://leda.com/index.htm

Get your facts straight Fred

hooooray! ginge is back!

 

[Fred@BTM]

Is the dynacup ready?

yup, tis running 5year old FK's beat that!

 

[Tom]

LOL! Your special FK's.

I hope you changed the front springs!

 

[Fred@BTM]

nope

 

[Tom]

Hahahahahahahaha!

"slip slidin away"

 

[Fred@BTM]

LOL

 

[Steviant]

Is singing a hidden talent Fred?

Nice guitar.

 

[Fred@BTM]

danke!

 

[Gary G]

 

[pusherman]

lol @ you lot.

any more opinions on these coilovers...

i'm pretty set on the H&Rs so far... how do they go on road & track?

also whats the best height to run the clio 172 at, and what camber @ toe in/out??

i'll be using 15" alloys

 

[MarkM]

LEDA got bad press for a reason, they s**te on clios

anything German you can't go wrong, H&R if you're mainly a road user

I have Ledas on my car and would have to disagree. The rear spring is there weak point and due to its length/shape it does bind occassionally. I am considering getting the H&R spring platform setup fitted (does anyone know if this is available to buy?)

I took my car to Angelworks the other week and Ben was very impressed with the ride and handling of my car.

When was the last time you drove a clio fitted with Ledas Fred?

 

[Fred@BTM]

about a month ago (wide's car off here) i had to modify the upper top mounts with spacers as the top mount rubbers were fouling the top caps which made turning the steering "hard"

admittedly i do like how LEDA have done their camber adjusmtent setup

 

[fmp_]

LEDA got bad press for a reason, they s**te on clios

anything German you can't go wrong, H&R if you're mainly a road user

FPMSL, Fred, you are a joke. Of they are s**te on clio's. that's why the fastest car around Brands last Monday was a clio fitted with Leda's.

Anyone takes your advice, is almost as big an idiot as you.

that, for some reason, made my day!

 

[matty w]

h&r's are superb on road use but dont seem quite firm enough for track use