BMS Shifter

[182_steve]

Seen a few people with the BMS shifter which I think will be a better option for me over the more 'becauseracecar' PMS, but just wondered does this still use the standard Renault housing? Does it use Scenic bits? I don't really know anything about them!

Also, where can I buy one!? Struggling with this compared to the easily accessible PMS version

 

[Stay Puft]

Its just an adapted scenic shifter.. a guy on here and FB pages makes them.. but not very often iirc.

I went for Scenic shifter/yanoo stiff shift as it looks more 'oem+' imo.

 

[Louis]

Seen a few people with the BMS shifter which I think will be a better option for me over the more 'becauseracecar' PMS, but just wondered does this still use the standard Renault housing? Does it use Scenic bits? I don't really know anything about them!

Also, where can I buy one!? Struggling with this compared to the easily accessible PMS version

I've started documenting the build of scenic shifter in my build thread. It's simply a scenic shifter, that's been stiffened, bent more towards the driver and extended by 1 inch/0.5 inch (ish) at the bottom.
I believe you can just use a short shifter and not have to extend the bottom as it's essentially the same thing. Stiffening up wise, i'll be trying some methods soon.

 

[Stay Puft]

As above.. if you want true racecar go PMS for a bit extra.

 

[leeds2592]

I've got a BMS in mine. Had it a few years now and I'd definitely recommend it over standard. Just having it higher and bent back is so much better, no longer have to be stretch arm strong to change gear.

Never used or been in a car that's got a PMS so couldn't compare or comment on them.

 

[imprezaworks]

Pms is awesome, I sold mine to release some money as I was selling the car, well thinking about it. I’m back to the original set up.

 

[Mr Plums]

The pms really does feel brilliant, it feels like a totally different box, it just slots and snaps into gear like a proper racecar!

 

[182_steve]

The PMS is a great bit of kit i totally agree and i'm not bothered about the additional cost to get one, I've seen close hand the one in @T9 0LLE 's car and it does exactly what it says on the tin. BUT...... it's too 'race car' for me @Davyy , I don't drive my car hard enough to get the full gain from it plus I don't want the associated vibrations and noise. Thought the BMS would be good middle ground?

 

[loggyboy]

I've started documenting the build of scenic shifter in my build thread. It's simply a scenic shifter, that's been stiffened, bent more towards the driver and extended by 1 inch/0.5 inch (ish) at the bottom.
I believe you can just use a short shifter and not have to extend the bottom as it's essentially the same thing. Stiffening up wise, i'll be trying some methods soon.

Exactly this, in fact I suspect it was our FB discussion on the same subject?#

IMO best budget route is:
Scenic linkage (£20-60 used) - this raises pivot point and extends knob towards driver. You can add a small bend back which brings it even closer to driver, reducing time and distance to go between wheel and knob.
The extra length of the scenic stick means the throw is slightly increased, so adding a £25 ebay quick shift brings the throw ratio back to standard, maybe slightly shorter. Ebay
Then 2 choices,
1) £6 refurb kit for the get stick (replaces the rubber and the nylon ball joint) this just ensures any play in the old scenic stick is reduced to what it left the factory with. Ebay
OR
2) £70-90 on a DP/yanoo 1, 2 or 3 stiff shifter. These can be brought from this guy linky.

So can be done for under £60 if you bargain hunt.

 

[Louis]

Haha Yeah, I'm Louis Walker on Facebook.

Shifter wise, I believe an oring can be placed between the two plastic top hats that house inside the ball (linked above) to add some more tension and tighten it up. I presume this is how the BMS ones are done as it can't be anything too complicated or there would be no profit in them after parts cost and machining everything.

 

[alistairolsen]

BMS is Ashley Bruneu on FB. He uses the megane shifter housing and an extended stick

 

[Louis]

 

[t90_lle]

That's some sketchy looking welding haha is it sleeved or just a bar welded in?

Just bite the bullet @182_steve and get a PMS, mines not exactly used as a racecar is it? Apart from boosting its probably the second best thing I done to my clio.

 

[Louis]

Looks just welded in. I was gonna sleeve some for my own design but might just get a short shifter.

The pictures above are of the BMS

 

[182_steve]

Some really useful info here :up::up:

 

[loggyboy]

BMS is Ashley Bruneu on FB. He uses the megane shifter housing and an extended stick

Yes, but stick is only extended at bottom, top is standard Scenic with a custom sliding reverse lifter.

That's some sketchy looking welding haha is it sleeved or just a bar welded in?

Welding looks fine. I beleive shaft is hollow so that becomes the sleeve.

 

[Louis]

Yes, but stick is only extended at bottom, top is standard Scenic with a custom sliding reverse lifter.


Welding looks fine. I beleive shaft is hollow so that becomes the sleeve.

Didn't realise it was hollow

 

[loggyboy]

Didn't realise it was hollow

Only a suspicion, as otherwise it would make more sense to sleave it or at least match the same dia bar, rather than join it with a thinner bar.

 

[leeds2592]

Here's my shaft and knob, BMS.

 

[Louis]

Your lift up collar looks different to some I've seen Ethan. Looks good!

 

[leeds2592]

Your lift up collar looks different to some I've seen Ethan. Looks good!

He's changed the design a couple of times I think. Mines going on 2/3 years old now.

 

[bloke]

pms or go home to your council house with nice roman pillars next to the front door :tongueclosed:

 

[loggyboy]

pms or go home to your council house with nice roman pillars next to the front door :tongueclosed:

No clio owner can brag about it not being council.

 

[leeds2592]

pms or go home to your council house with nice roman pillars next to the front door :tongueclosed:

I have a BMS and manage council properties as a job, does that count? 😂

 

[182_steve]

Here's my shaft and knob, BMS.

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That looks absolutely spot on and exactly what i'm after......... looks slightly shorter than PMS too? That's what I want also

 

[leeds2592]

That looks absolutely spot on and exactly what i'm after......... looks slightly shorter than PMS too? That's what I want also

It looks shorter in that first pic in honesty.

Highest point is probably in line with the CD player, so kind of around that height.

 

[truckracing]

Here's my shaft and knob, BMS.

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Could you tell me how to contact the seller? I'm looking for google and facebook and I do not give with it. Thanks!!

 

[leeds2592]

Could you tell me how to contact the seller? I'm looking for google and facebook and I do not give with it. Thanks!!

@Ash-b-84 on here or Ashley Bruneu on facebook.

 

[Landyman]

I’ve got a BMS gear lever on Ebay at the moment if you want one of those.

 

[truckracing]

@Ash-b-84 on here or Ashley Bruneu on facebook.

Thanks mate!

 

[Aliween1400]

Here's my shaft and knob, BMS.

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Where did u purchase from

 

[leeds2592]

Where did u purchase from

@Ash-b-84 on here or Ashley Bruneu on facebook.

 

[Aliween1400]

@Ash-b-84 on here or Ashley Bruneu on facebook.

Thanks very much
I've given him a message on here I'll message him on fb as well
Roughly how much the kit

 

[Louis]

He's usually on fb. Not sure on price nowadays

 

[leeds2592]

Thanks very much
I've given him a message on here I'll message him on fb as well
Roughly how much the kit

Been 2 or 3 years since I bought mine so can't remember how much I paid or how much they are nowadays tbh.

 

[loggyboy]

IIRC correctly he stopped making them as he progressed them so much they bordering on PMS costs so wasnt worth him bothering.

 

[Rob01978]

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Did you buy new red bushes? If so do you know the part number or name? Thanks in advance

 

[Louis]

Did you buy new red bushes? If so do you know the part number or name? Thanks in advance

Can't buy them I dont think. You can get them in brass from @Yanoo

 

[Rob01978]

Can't buy them I dont think. You can get them in brass from @Yanoo

Cheers for the reply ?? Just bought a bms 2nd hand but no bush in it. Was hoping to get new rather than using the ones out of my current shifter.

 

[Louis]

Cheers for the reply ?? Just bought a bms 2nd hand but no bush in it. Was hoping to get new rather than using the ones out of my current shifter.

They'll be fine mate, dont really tend to wear and you just tighten up the bolt in it anyway.