mark @MicKPM yea its the oem yellow one, Iv removed other terminal pins before but could figure out how to remove the ecu one and didn't want to start messing about. (just wanted to slip shrink tubing over the 24 and 54 wires as these are now bridged with a resistor. Sorry clogging up your thread now with my mess... :/
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NorthloopCup
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It's fine mate. I don't mind.
NorthloopCup
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NorthloopCup
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Raychem ordered for the wiring loom. I've also got a supplier of pretty much every plug used in these wiring looms. Anyone want a custom loom?! :wink: We have the technology.
Can't wait to see what power this makes , like the out of the norm thinking that's went into it.
I would love a new car loom with just the basics, already have omex engine loom and eventually want to go with a dash2. But still want to bin the standard Ecu and control unit.
I would love a new car loom with just the basics, already have omex engine loom and eventually want to go with a dash2. But still want to bin the standard Ecu and control unit.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Well I think it'll realistically see around 220-225bhp, but I'm not too fussed what it makes tbh. As long as it's more than 200bhp I couldn't care one bit. Be nice if it made more than the 230hp, but I'm certainly not chasing numbers.
I always like to do things a bit differently mate. :smiley:
NorthloopCup
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New gearbox mount cover/ecu mount made and ready to fit. Probably get that on this afternoon.
If I can be arsed. Lol
NorthloopCup
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New mounting plate now fitted.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
So you could be arsed! You can't resist the cup!
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Only just! It took some motivation today that's for sure.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
What's the overall condition of the cup. The engine looks very clean so I'm guessing it's been painted recently/at some point?
Just wandering what the exterior/interior of the car is like compared to the engine bay. Got any pics?
Just wandering what the exterior/interior of the car is like compared to the engine bay. Got any pics?
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Overall it's a tidy car imo. Not mint, not rough. It's also a cat c! I bought it as a cat c and carried out the repairs. It needed a new front bumper, n/s wing, n/s door and the n/s qtr pulling out slightly. I didn't care too much as it was always destined to be a track car not a show winner, but I couldn't drive round in a nail. It's got to be right.
O/S:
Interior:
Megane r26
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Minus the crease on the front edge of the bonnet from the nibbler. Lol! One day I'll upload the footage from our blast out as well (which is where to pics of the cup and the trophy came from)
Megane r26
Haha that's just a small wrinkle, certainly better them some thrown together track cars! In my opinion attention to detail goes a long way
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Yeah definitely mate. I think the Astra stands as testament to my attention to detail. Lol
Megane r26
Certainly did mate
Cub.
ClioSport Moderator
Kermit is epic. Clean, non-chavvy cup which goes like stink. One of the few cars on here I'd swap mine for.
Shame the owner is such a ring piece 😂
Shame the owner is such a ring piece 😂
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Your only saying that because I keep turning down your sexual advances.
NorthloopCup
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It's been professionally sprayed inside mate.
NorthloopCup
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Your rad will be ready for me to collect next week btw. Just remembered!:up:
Awesome mate thanks
I'm still worried it wont fit properly lol!
Give me a text when it's done please and we can sort something out x
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Confronted with the innards of the gearbox or by that tangled mess of wires I'd run and hide.
You sir have awesome skills. Coming along nicely!
You sir have awesome skills. Coming along nicely!
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Lol! Thanks! Honestly though, they're genuinely not that bad. I'd be confident that I could teach near enough anyone how to do it. It all comes down to confidence and ultimately not being scared. Wiring scares everyone it seems - even blokes I work with run and hide from it!
Thanks for the kind words though, it's very much appreciated. I find it all very humbling tbh.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
A little update. Blinged the ecu mounting up with some fancy anodised cups that I'd got lying around. The plate and ecu are now fixed down.
Had a little play with some stuff that I borrowed off @Panda today. This consisted of pms caliper brackets, brembos and 300mm discs. The findings are that I can run them on my cup turinis without the need for a spacer, which is happy days. Different story with the superleggera's though!! Here's some pics so you can see what I mean.
There's a good 2-3mm of spoke clearance and caliper to wheel clearance here.
The same can't be said for this though!
It looks like I'd have 2 options here. Run a 5mm spacer and machine the calipers with more of a radius to gain clearance. Or have some custom ally bells made to run a 2 piece 295mm disc, machine the caliper to sit slightly lower, with a radius for clearance and run a 5mm spacer.
The scenic 300mm discs are heavy as fook as well.
Worth the hassle for an extra 20mm of brake disc size? I'm not convinced.
More to come.
The same can't be said for this though!
The scenic 300mm discs are heavy as fook as well.
Worth the hassle for an extra 20mm of brake disc size? I'm not convinced.
More to come.
Depends how badly you want them on, but personally no.
M.C..
ClioSport Club Member
Bells would be the best but it would start to get expensive then.
Is there much of a difference in performance between the 280 and 300 discs?
If not just get some of the brackets for 280 discs.
What will you be doing with the MC?
Is there much of a difference in performance between the 280 and 300 discs?
If not just get some of the brackets for 280 discs.
What will you be doing with the MC?
Gus
ClioSport Moderator
182Turbo,DCi90
Doubt the turinis would clear the wheel weights. I had to have the weights moved to the middle of the wheel and rebalanced.
The feel of the brembos is amazing though, so much better than standard. Non PMS mounts might be better for you as the PMS ones are offset so that the alipers sit slightly diagonally so the pad covers the whole face of the disc.
Megane r26
I remember undoing those fancy anodised fixings lol
NorthloopCup
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I don't own a set of brembos mate so I don't want them that badly!
Nah costs are not so much of an issue as I can get bells and brackets made up for material costs + a drink. The biggest issue is that I'm not taken by the brembos. The overall design of them is big and bulky. A 300mm disc and 4 pot caliper should piss it for space under a 16" wheel, but not the brembos! Alcons or ap's may be the way forward. A standard mc will be fine with the correct piston specs.
Yeah you can't run wheel weights mate. I strongly doubt there's enough space for wheel weights on a set of Chris Powells brackets in 300mm either.
Doubt the turinis would clear the wheel weights. I had to have the weights moved to the middle of the wheel and rebalanced.
The feel of the brembos is amazing though, so much better than standard. Non PMS mounts might be better for you as the PMS ones are offset so that the alipers sit slightly diagonally so the pad covers the whole face of the disc.
I'm not doubting the feel of the brembos mate at all, but imo they're overrated and overhyped from what I've seen today. There's better alternatives out there in terms of braking performance.
Of which there was a lot! Lol
If these are of any use Mark, let me know mate.
http://www.cliosport.net/threads/alloy-brake-bells.773097/
Or if you know anyone else. :smiley:
http://www.cliosport.net/threads/alloy-brake-bells.773097/
Or if you know anyone else. :smiley:
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Unfortunately mate I'm going to go bigger than the 280's if I fit 4 pots so they wouldn't be of any use to me. If i think of anyone else though I'll send them your way.
Clio 200
Hi Mark,
Given your gearbox skills, have you ever had a mk3 TL4 apart? Wondering how the crownwheel is fitted to the standard diff and how it's removed, as I'll be fitting it to either a Quaife or Gripper.
When I had a Quaife on my 106 it was an interference fit with a ball bearing as a kind of keyway, but the only thing I've heard about the TL4 is with regards to the Gripper which is apparently bolted on??
Any light you can shed on this? Also I got a good price off Steve for the Quaife, so thinking I'll go down that route over the Gripper. Even though a fair few pros now have said the Gripper won't need servicing?
Cheers
Given your gearbox skills, have you ever had a mk3 TL4 apart? Wondering how the crownwheel is fitted to the standard diff and how it's removed, as I'll be fitting it to either a Quaife or Gripper.
When I had a Quaife on my 106 it was an interference fit with a ball bearing as a kind of keyway, but the only thing I've heard about the TL4 is with regards to the Gripper which is apparently bolted on??
Any light you can shed on this? Also I got a good price off Steve for the Quaife, so thinking I'll go down that route over the Gripper. Even though a fair few pros now have said the Gripper won't need servicing?
Cheers
NorthloopCup
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Crownwheel bolts on mate. Also the gripper won't need servicing anywhere near as often as they've done something with the plates. It will need servicing, but we are talking multiple years, not every year.
Clio 200
Cheers, so probably as frequently as the syncros need doing then!! (my 4th is fadged on 34k!). hmmm just not sure which to go for. Cars a daily so does about 10k a year.
That's cool about the crownwheel then, should be a simple enough rebuild. I've got a 4.7FD coming out another TL4 so can pre fit that and not need to send 2 gearboxes off and risk getting the wrong ratios!
That's cool about the crownwheel then, should be a simple enough rebuild. I've got a 4.7FD coming out another TL4 so can pre fit that and not need to send 2 gearboxes off and risk getting the wrong ratios!
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
You shouldn't really mix and match a crownwheel and pinion mate.
For maximum performance i'd opt for the gripper personally, but it comes down to personal preference. I chose the Quaife because I got it at a extremely good price.
Clio 200
No I'll be taking both the crownwheel and pinion as a matched pair from one TL4 and using them in another - the early 197 box actually as that has a longer 1-3 to avoid them becoming usless and a shorter 5&6. Vs. my 200 spec box that is.
It'll be a sweet setup as ratios 1-2 work out the same as the 200 is now, then everything from there is shorter, 3rd not too much shorter than now (again ideal), but 4th and especially 5&6 are getting a nice reduction :wink: It will be 137@7700 and my 6th will be as my 5th is now.
It'll be a sweet setup as ratios 1-2 work out the same as the 200 is now, then everything from there is shorter, 3rd not too much shorter than now (again ideal), but 4th and especially 5&6 are getting a nice reduction :wink: It will be 137@7700 and my 6th will be as my 5th is now.