Brembo calipers..??

[Brucey Boy]

Easy guys, Just done a search but can't find any answers...? I know everyone goes on about fitting Brembo calipers from a Peugeot 406 coupe... To my 172 sport...! Will Brembo calipers from a fiat coupe 20v turbo fit..? Are they the same as the Peugeot ones..? They seem to be cheaper from the fiat coupe... I know I will need mounting brackets ect....can anyone on here make some or help source some..?
Any info appreciated...!

Cheers, Bruce...

 

[Chip-mk1]

Same caliper design but totally different bolt spacing so wont fit up the same at all.

 

[Carlv8415]

I got the 406 callipers with custom mounting brackets. Or you can get the Brembos off the 197/200

 

[Chip-mk1]

I got the 406 callipers with custom mounting brackets. Or you can get the Brembos off the 197/200

The 406 ones are good as the mounting points are so close together you can fit with just a flat bit of think plate:

With the fiat ones they wont do the same as the bolt holes are too similar (but sadly not the same) as 172 ones, only way to use them really on a 172 is if you go for really big disks so you can mount them outboard of the original lugs.

 

[Carlv8415]

Yeah suppose you could do it that way. I was going to get a bracket machined for about £90 a pair lol

 

[Brucey Boy]

Cheers guys for the feedback... That's a different idea chip about a flat plate,never seen that before...! I thought you had to have some proper brackets made up...! I will keep me eye out for a pair of cheap Peugeot Brembo calipers then. Chip..any chance you have dimensions of the plate you used so I can get some from work.. Save me some time on trial and error.. Lol...!

Cheers, Bruce...

 

[jesus]

I got the 406 callipers with custom mounting brackets. Or you can get the Brembos off the 197/200

This may be obvious but do you still need adapters for the 197/200 ones to MK2 fitment? Chip-mk1

 

[Carlv8415]

Yeah

 

[Carlv8415]

As far as I am aware, the brackets for the 197/200 are more expensive than the ones for the 406 callipers

 

[Chip-mk1]

This may be obvious but do you still need adapters for the 197/200 ones to MK2 fitment? @Chip-mk1

Yes

There is no direct fit option for 4 pots from any other car that I have ever heard of, custom brackets or aftermarket are the only option.

 

[Carlv8415]

Wildwood kits are direct fit but you looking £1000+ for a kit

 

[car.crash]

I've always fancied some 4 pots but can't really fault the standard calipers.
is this a worthy upgrade?
Can anyone explain where the benefits are if using the same pad and disc type.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Wildwood kits are direct fit but you looking £1000+ for a kit

No you aren't. Wilwood are cheap and cheerful.

699 brand new including 295mm disks:
http://jam-sport.co.uk/shop/renault-clio-295mm-4pot-brake-kit/

 

[Chip-mk1]

I've always fancied some 4 pots but can't really fault the standard calipers.
is this a worthy upgrade?
Can anyone explain where the benefits are if using the same pad and disc type.

Standard brakes work quite well on a Clio. So gains are not huge if you are standard power.

 

[Carlv8415]

Lot get my setup done I need:

406 callipers
Brackets
Rebuild kit
Pin kit
Calliper paint
Braided lines
ATE Blue fluid
Mintex 1144 pads
300mm scenic disks.

The Mintex 1144s are £115 a set and discs are pretty cheap.

All in it's about £450

 

[Chip-mk1]

1144 are good on the road but personally I drive too hard for them on track.
You aren't going to run 15s I take it then?

 

[botfch]

Add spacers to that list too.

 

[Carlv8415]

Nah can't do 15s with 300mm disc so sticking with 16s

 

[cs_dave]

Has anyone stopped the damn noise yet!

 

[Chip-mk1]

Has anyone stopped the damn noise yet!

Noisey pads? What ones are you running?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Nah can't do 15s with 300mm disc so sticking with 16s

I've got wilwoods under 15 with 295mm disks with no spacers but they are slimmer calipers.
My tarox six pots go under a 15 with 300 disks but only with a large spacer.

 

[Carlv8415]

I not 100% certain. But was just told that 406 Brembos with brackets and 300mm discs won't go under 15s. I don't know how valid tabu is. I want 16s anyways so wasn't really an issue

 

[cs_dave]

Mintex pads mate

Any better suggestions as the noise is embarrassing at times

unless I'm trying to play a tune

 

[Chip-mk1]

Which mintex?

1144 are normally almost silent, 1155 or 1166 or f4r etc will squeal a bit.

 

[botfch]

It's a symptom of the 406 caliper I believe.

 

[Chip-mk1]

It's a symptom of the 406 caliper I believe.

Don't see why it would be, 406 coupes don't squeal.

 

[botfch]

Don't see why it would be, 406 coupes don't squeal.

Sorry probably should have phrased that better seems to be symptom of using that calliper on the Clio.

Filing the pads back can help along with copper grease, I would hazard a guess it might be something to do with the disk thickness.
I gave up myself and switched to the 197 calliper, performance is similar just quieter.

 

[Chip-mk1]

I don't see why the caliper would care that it's on a Clio if the mounting brackets are aligned correctly.

 

[Carlv8415]

Most people I spoke to about them recommended Mintex 1144s. I have heard that they can squeal at times but I thought that's just a trade off of having 4 pots

 

[Chip-mk1]

Most people I spoke to about them recommended Mintex 1144s. I have heard that they can squeal at times but I thought that's just a trade off of having 4 pots

1144 are good road pads but personally I find them not upto track driving on the cars I've used them on. Very cheap for an upgraded pad though so worth a try.

 

[Carlv8415]

£115 for Mintex 1144 pads to go in the 406 callipers

 

[Chip-mk1]

Indeed. Got to be pretty much the cheapest "go-faster" pad available.

 

[ripp]

quick question here- a mate has these 406 brembo calipers fitted to his 172 and I wanna help him get some new braided lines fitted as the current ones are quite dodgy, anyone can point out to what are the ones that fit? thanks!

 

[Advikaz]

quick question here- a mate has these 406 brembo calipers fitted to his 172 and I wanna help him get some new braided lines fitted as the current ones are quite dodgy, anyone can point out to what are the ones that fit? thanks!

Speak to Hel mate or i think Pure etc have them on the shelf.