Building a Server?

[Silent_Scone]

If you don't know anything about disk arrays leave well clear and let him hire someone who knows what they're doing! That's basic stuff!

 

[The Fatty]

Post 27

i totally missed that lol. eyes must have been tired at that point

 

[@Spoonie]

the guy is just trying to build a pretty basic server for a handful of people, and is getting a torrent of irrelevant info!!

This x1000.

 

[The Fatty]

Yes but as its a business server it shoudl have the right type of RAID, do you not agree?

 

[sargey]

He's getting someone with no server experience to look after his server?

:quiet:

Sorry, just going to quote myself.........

 

[The Fatty]

lol its like de-ja-vu!

 

[Chapster5]

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=raid+10+buy&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2953l3399l7l3546l3l3l0l0l0l0l136l342l1.2l3l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&ix=hcb&biw=1680&bih=935&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=14946726569859239710&sa=X&ei=EJ4qT5vDF8rLsgask43zDA&ved=0CHcQ8gIwCA

What about that?

Nick

 

[sargey]

What about it?

Going to use it for back up?

 

[The Fatty]

Ok, so now your going back to NAS drives? :Confused: Thought you wanted a WS2008 box?

 

[Chapster5]

Is it not an external RAID array? So it just holds HDD's easily swap in and out in case of corruption?

Nick

 

[The Fatty]

no

 

[The Fatty]

that is a NAS box, not what we are talkign about at all

 

[Chapster5]

Hmmm lol

Can someone point me towards one that is please? I dont know what im looking for. I may just even ditch RAID for now and put a TB external HDD on the network so the systems can access it

Nick

 

[The Fatty]

Its dont an external thing, it exist inside the server! either 2, 3 or 4 HDD's connected to a RAID controller!!! Most modern mobo's have a built in RAID controller, and all pre-built servers will have RAID already configured!

 

[Chapster5]

Ahh right well

Reading the server Specs that I have chosen it says

RAID Connectivity - C1 4HD - No RAID with On-board SATA Controller, Requires 1-4 SATA HDDs

Take it as this one doesnt have it.

Nick

 

[Cookie]

I've been watching this one, glad I didn't get involved

I wouldn't let half of you near my network

 

[sargey]

How old is the OP?

 

[Cr33do]

Oh boy - just skimmed through this thread, which is quite difficult with all the `sub-aguments` going on about network switches/RAID and the like

I undertand your WANT to learn but you really do need to understand the basic requirements (and fundementals to achieve this) before going any further. Dont get bogged down with all the low-level details before you undertand this. Dont over-complicate it either, at the end of the day its 5 clients that may expand to 10. Also, supporting a businesses infrastructure is also a different kettle of fish than fixing your home PC.

My only concern is that you (without any experience) are taking on ALL aspects of an IT solution (however small) when in the real world people ultimately specialise in certain areas.

I hope you succeed and wish you the best of luck.

PS - from a switch perspective just obtain a branded switch (HP/Linksys) with enough ports for future growth. Dont worry about its config (if its managed) as by default it will serve your purposes just fine.

 

[Chapster5]

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Nick

 

[Chapster5]

Oh boy - just skimmed through this thread, which is quite difficult with all the `sub-aguments` going on about network switches/RAID and the like

I undertand your WANT to learn but you really do need to understand the basic requirements (and fundementals to achieve this) before going any further. Dont get bogged down with all the low-level details before you undertand this. Dont over-complicate it either, at the end of the day its 5 clients that may expand to 10. Also, supporting a businesses infrastructure is also a different kettle of fish than fixing your home PC.

My only concern is that you (without any experience) are taking on ALL aspects of an IT solution (however small) when in the real world people ultimately specialise in certain areas.

I hope you succeed and wish you the best of luck.

PS - from a switch perspective just obtain a branded switch (HP/Linksys) with enough ports for future growth. Dont worry about its config (if its managed) as by default it will serve your purposes just fine.

Thank you mate

I will try my best lol at this rate im thinking getting a pro in is a good idea lol SO much to think about.

Nick

 

[sargey]

This whole thread is the reason why your mate should get a professional in.

 

[iain187]

you should do this for a bit of a joke:

ring up a couple of small IT firms that do this sort of thing, get them in and explain what you're planning to do, say you will need a server than can run x y & z

get them to send you a written quote of the hardware they would propose


then you can just buy it/set it up yourself and they've done all the work on picking parts for you

 

[Chapster5]

you should do this for a bit of a joke:

ring up a couple of small IT firms that do this sort of thing, get them in and explain what you're planning to do, say you will need a server than can run x y & z

get them to send you a written quote of the hardware they would propose


then you can just buy it/set it up yourself and they've done all the work on picking parts for you

LOL The could possibly work what network companies are even out there?

Nick

 

[iain187]

google!

 

[Chapster5]

I could... but has anyone used any in the past that are reputable?

Nick

 

[Cookie]

you should do this for a bit of a joke:

ring up a couple of small IT firms that do this sort of thing, get them in and explain what you're planning to do, say you will need a server than can run x y & z

get them to send you a written quote of the hardware they would propose


then you can just buy it/set it up yourself and they've done all the work on picking parts for you

Don't do this

It's not the obtaining of the parts you're going to struggle with, it's setting up and running all of it. Even a simple solution isn't really something I'd let a boggo helldesk person near, let alone someone with no industry experience

 

[iain187]

that post was to be taken with a pinch of salt

 

[The Fatty]

and that is the death of this thread lol

 

[Chapster5]

To be honest Fatty... Ill probably end up going through with me doing it lol

I cant see it being that complex setting it up and getting the systems talking with each other.

Nick

 

[@Spoonie]

I still standby what I said earlier. Leave possible solutions until you understand exactly what he wants. If he suddenly decides he needs email, web access to all desktops, remote working etc you are going to need to look at a different design to simply sharing a few files and database. Good Luck.

 

[Chapster5]

Thanks Spoonie,

He wouldnt know what half of them things are. Email is dealt through his website which I have setup and runs to Outlook. He wouldnt use remote services as when hes away from work... hes not going to work.

Guess he just needs an internet connection for all the clients, but if i connect the router to the switch then that will share it all itself.

Nick

 

[Cookie]

Guess he just needs an internet connection for all the clients, but if i connect the router to the switch then that will share it all itself.

I believe this is referred to as magic

 

[@Spoonie]

I believe this is referred to as magic

 

[Adam.]

Top-tip - if he calls and says it isn't working, tell him to turn it off and back on again.

 

[iain187]

talking of turning it off and on what is your opinions on UPS's guys

 

[Chapster5]

LOL will keep that in mind, Im speaking with a Guy at a company called ServersDirect he can supply a server

Hes just taking ages to respond on live chat -.-'

Nick

 

[Silent_Scone]

TRAGIC

 

[sargey]

www.dell.co.uk

 

[Chapster5]

www.dell.co.uk

This guys cheaper and can supply a far superior machine double the power really

Nick

 

[sargey]

What do you class as far superior?