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Golf 7R
Best decision you will/can make.
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
I really like white 197 cups, do it!
What's the price?
Better handling,recaro,red calipers etc
IMHO worth that extra money
182 FF
me and the wife went car shopping this week, after both having 172's.
on a word the new ones are 'disappointing' to say the least, especially the new cup models, just plastic s**te inside and out.
went to honda, got offered an 08 civic type R, for 14k, with 6000 miles on it. built as a sports car should be.
looked at the corsa vrx, they are just too expensive for the money, better buyin a year old car unless the 2k scrappage scheme comes into force imo, but even that path is paved with problems
on a word the new ones are 'disappointing' to say the least, especially the new cup models, just plastic s**te inside and out.
went to honda, got offered an 08 civic type R, for 14k, with 6000 miles on it. built as a sports car should be.
looked at the corsa vrx, they are just too expensive for the money, better buyin a year old car unless the 2k scrappage scheme comes into force imo, but even that path is paved with problems
interior is no worse than a 182
More money than a new 197cup could be had for and its in a different class, is more comparable to the R26 which is far superior and can be had for the same money.
VXR looks pisch
RB 197 fatty
seriarse??? thats the first time iv heard that! i really disagree. i think the new models have come a long long way in terms of quality of build inside and out! if you get a FF like me, the interior is cracking! no mor plastic shite than the old!
good choice! love them, interiors are mint
182 FF
may be so, but look at the prices, what is a 197 new?
the cup is poo, all black plastic, you think they would have made it different in an appealing way, its just PLASTIC!!!!!
182 FF
just my opinion, but i disagree, love the early sports, but they seemed to have lost the point of a cup in the 197 imo, but thats just me.
The way the market is you can fill yer boots with a new car, was offered a honda s2000 for 20K!!!!! was 29k, last of the series before they go eco green.
my point is there are better cars for the money at the moment
The cup is a cheaper more driver focused version of the original, thats what its always meant to be and thats what it is. Just because the weight loss isnt as big doesnt mean its lost the point.
Clio 197 Cup
The cup is not built for quality its built for entertainment value, the interior is stripped to reduce weight.
If you want quality by a jag gran dad.
IMO the 197 cup is the best car i have ever owned, granted its light weight internally but your paying for performance value its a beaut of a car and it looks amazing (externally).
To the author of the article i suggest you test drive one and gain your own opinion of the car, after all its your money and your investment, make sure its right for you.
Happy hunting!
182 FF
its not the amount of weight loss, just the means by which they lost it and what is left
Sold my trophy & bits & added £1200 for 58 cup
Cheers Jimbo's dad
You saying that Steve, yours must of been the White cup in the showroom at Wests when I placed my order for the 197 back in November!!
182 FF
as i already said, weight is not the issue, just the quality of the finish
172cup
Personally, the quality of the new 197 is a cut above previous Renaultsports and I would say it is getting closer to vw refinement levels, well apart from the 'playdays' heater controls!!
The 197 is seriously good car and if you have the cash buy one. Unless your about to pay 11k and you should buy an r26 instead.
Civic is fine but not as good as an ep3 too refined and grown up for me and it doesn't drive as well as it looks. Plus the seats would do my head in as they reset themselves every time you move them.
The 197 is seriously good car and if you have the cash buy one. Unless your about to pay 11k and you should buy an r26 instead.
Civic is fine but not as good as an ep3 too refined and grown up for me and it doesn't drive as well as it looks. Plus the seats would do my head in as they reset themselves every time you move them.
the interior is as good as a 182. the exterior plastics is personal taste.
182 FF
more refinned.............. thats probably why i want one, gettin old now. lol
172cup
Ha ha! But if your getting old mate the seat will do your head in!! I had one for a day while my ep3 was getting new brakes, just happened to be my day to pick and drop everyone off, nightmare.
Another consideration for clio cup money is an st my pal has just bought one with 300bhp. Very fast.
Another consideration for clio cup money is an st my pal has just bought one with 300bhp. Very fast.
The finish inside of my 197 is better than my previous 182 and mk2 v6, end of the day you get what you pay for.
As said before the civic is to be compared to the megane rather than the Clio (in size), even thou the Clio is more of a drivers car than the civic! If you want a better quality interior plastics, buy the civic, but if you want a drivers car buy the Clio.
182 FF
but st is ford, i like jap tech, and to be fair they are always well built, reasonable mpg out of the civic too, never tested the seats proper, av to check that, sayin that the wife wanted a cooper S
, fookin arguments all night ova that
Clio 197 Cup
Stop swearing, NIMBUS! FTW!
Each to there own. Granted the honda will hold its value better as it costs more than the clio in the first place.
I've just bought a brand spanker 197 and I'm not bothered about the re-sell value as it's what I wanted, if I were bothered about the re-sell value I'd of bought a 2nd hand one, but it wouldn't of had all the options I wanted.
378bhp Leon Cupra R
but st is ford, i like jap tech, and to be fair they are always well built, reasonable mpg out of the civic too, never tested the seats proper, av to check that, sayin that the wife wanted a cooper S
If you like your jap tech what about these i,m thinking of one of these next major sleeper--and very refined.
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-u...cleYearOfManufacture=2008&vehicleRegLetter=08
Black 197
Had my 197 a week now and its been the best car i ever had, Build quality above my 182 is ten fold, The handling is precise and sharp and it sticks to the road like sh*t to a blanket, Power delivery is fantastic and the gearbox is out of this world, Only you can decide if its the right car for you - i asked the same questions and i took the plunge... Best car decision i ever made... I'm sure you'll buy and love it tbh
