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Canon EOS 550D



  Cupra
Or just go future proof... it'll save you upgrading later.

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[/whoring] ;)
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
What does the end cap on the big lens do? Always meant to ask that. :eek:
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Cool never really seen many people use them.

Are they for specific enviroments only? Too light ect... ?
 
  Cupra
Cool never really seen many people use them.

Are they for specific enviroments only? Too light ect... ?

I use them whenever my kids are about, or if I am in crowds for protection, and for studio work to reduce flair. In fact, I pretty much use the hoods all the time.

I don't have one on my 50mm and the 24-70 I am borrowing didn't come with one, which does not seem to have had a detrimental effect on my pictures from the weekend. If the lens comes with one, there is no harm in using it IMHO.
 

mas

  MK7 GTD & Mini GP
There no such thing as 'Future Proofing'.

Just buy what you can afford at the time, and stretch to what you can afford when the next model comes out.
 
  Cupra
You're right. There is always something bigger, better and faster around the corner.

I'll be happy with my 5DII for a while though. It even beats the 1DIV in terms of image quality up to about 3200 ISO. The 1DIV gets perfectly usable images up to 12800 with minimal in camera noise reduction which blows the 5 out of the water.

The AF is the only thing I wish they would sort, but the 1DIV also suffers in low light.
 
  Inferno 182 CUP
snobby lol

im just worried

ive never spent £500 on anything before - its took me AGESSSSSSSSSSS to get this money .. and now i have it im thinking wtf do i buy 550 or 500.

the 500 i can afford

the 550 i can buy lol but not neccessarily afford etc

its so complex i just dont understand etc
 
  Skoda Fabia Vrs 180b
go with what your hear says Danny. The 500D is a very capable camera, it just depends on what you need. here is a comoarison from camerlabs.com

Canon's older EOS 500D / Rebel T1i is expected to sell alongside the new EOS 550D / T2i as a more affordable option between it and the entry-level EOS 1000D / XS – as such, the 500D / T1i effectively replaces the ageing 450D / XSi. Externally, both the EOS 500D / T1i and the new 550D / T2i look virtually identical, with the same size, weight, and similar styling, not to mention the same viewfinder, AF system and ISO range, but within there's a number of key differences. Most obviously the EOS 550D / T2i sports 18 Megapixels to 15.1 on the 500D / T1i; at 300 dpi, these images can be reproduced at up to 17.3x11.5in, compared to 15.8x10.5in on the older model. Both models can record HD video, but the 550D / T2i offers a wider choice of frame rates: the older 500D / T1i offered HD at either 720p in 30fps or 1080p in 20fps, whereas the new 550D / T2i offers 720p at 50 or 60fps or 1080p at 24, 25 or 30fps. The older model would only shoot video in fully automatic with audio recorded by a built-in microphone, whereas the new model additionally offers manual exposure controls and an external microphone input.
Both cameras feature 3in high resolution screens, but the 550D / T2i's sports a wider 3:2 aspect ratio which matches the shape of the images, allowing them to fill the screen in Live View or playback; HD movies also fill more of the screen than before.
Beyond the sensor resolution, screen and movie options, the 550D / T2i features a much more sophisticated metering system, support for SDXC and Eye-Fi memory cards along with CEC on the HDMI port for control with a compatible TV remote, and slightly quicker continuous shooting (3.7fps vs 3.5fps).
Overall, this represents a decent upgrade over the 500D / T1i, especially at a launch price that was only around 15% higher at the time of writing. But as news of the new model spreads, prices on the older one are bound to fall, and unless you really want the variable frame rates, smooth 1080p video, manual movie exposures and external microphone input, the older 500D / T1i remains a great camera. Keep an eye on prices as you may find a bargain. See our Canon EOS 500D / T1i review for more details.
 
  Inferno 182 CUP
see when i read that i think i like sport so recording in seamless HD might be nice but £150 extra nice?

Oh FFS its so stupid hard :mad:
 
  Skoda Fabia Vrs 180b
I still see video recording as a very secondary feature of SLR cameras. nice featre but tbh I have prob used it 3-4 times tops
 
  Cupra
I'd be tempted to go for the 500D with kit lens and a 50mm f1.8 on the side, rather than just the 550D with kit lens. Unless you are really into video, I don't think that the other features will really help your images that much.
 
  Skoda Fabia Vrs 180b
the 50mm is one of the best investments anyone could make. awesome lens and can be picked up for less than £80 if you look around
 
  Inferno 182 CUP
what is the 50mm?

it seems to similar to the 18-55? is it not lol?

surely i just set my 18-55 to 50?

bought the £500 btw!
 
  Oil Burner
The 50mm is a prime lens with a large maximum aperture (f1.8), so you can use DOF to structure images, get rid of rubbish background etc... Also having a large aperture lens gives you several more stops of light, so you wont have to use such high ISO to achieve the same shutter speeds.

For £80 its a bargain, albeit not exactly the best lens in the world, but will teach you to compose your shots better (being a prime) and give you some shallow DOF to play with which usually costs a lot more.

Your 18-55 will probably have a max aperture of f4.5 - 5.6 @ 50mm.....
 
  Inferno 182 CUP
my 18-55 is 3.5 -5.6 i think .. but goes up to 36 ... 3.6 is the lowest it goes i think?

so am i right in saying the lower that number the better and for macro a lower aperture will blur the background and focus on the subject so a 1.8 lens is best?

f**king hell i hope im learning this right!?

50mm is also the amount of zoom right? does it being a 50mm lens mean i cannot zoom out at all and its fixed?

also my shutter speeds go up to 4000 is that good?
 
  Oil Burner
As your lens is a 18-55 3.5 - 5.6 at its shortest focal length (18mm) its largest aperture will be f3.5, the smallest aperture might be 36, i'm not sure, its not a commonly used end of the scale.

The lower the number the shallower the DOF.

Shallow DOF does not make it a Macro lens. However where your probably getting confused is that macro lenses often display very shallow depth of field, but this is a side effect of them often being fairly long focal length lenses with a very close minimum focus distance. This gives you the effect of a very shallow DOF and is why focus is more critical the closer the subject is to you.

50mm is the Focal Length.

A prime lens is a lens with a fixed focal length, a zoom lens is a lens which covers a range of Focal lengths.

1/4000th is plenty fast enough for pretty much anything.
 
  Inferno 182 CUP
that went whoooooooosh over my head except the shutter speed lol

so if i want a macro lens and want to shoot flowers and insects what do i need?

cheap too lol

and what are extension tubes
 
  Oil Burner
You get specific Macro Lenses. They are Lenses that will Focus very close. They are typically pretty expensive. However to take photos of flowers you don't really need a macro lens tbh, any lens will do really. 50mm f1.8 would be fine.

Extension tubes are a way of making a normal lens focus much closer. You get two types, the super cheap ones that wont allow the Auto Focus to work (so you have to manual focus) and expensive ones that will still allow Auto Focus to work.
 
  Inferno 182 CUP
can you link me to an 'expensive' one please? :)

And so the 50mm 1.8 II lens .. isnt that very similar to my 18-55? i dont understand whats different :|
 
  Oil Burner
Its not a zoom lens. Its prime.

Its largest aperture is f1.8 compared to f5.6 of the 18-55 @ 55mm. This means that at its largest aperture the 50mm f1.8 will produce a shallower depth of field than the 18-55mm.

Here is a basic guide i have written for another forum. I'm sure there are some mistakes in it (wrote it ages ago) but it should help get you up to speed if you read it carefully.


The basics behind how a camera works is this: You control How much light is let into the camera (aperture) for how long (shutter speed) and how sensitive you want the camera to be to this light (iso)


Shutter speed is the time the shutter on the camera is open (exposing the sensor to light) during the shot. This can vary from 1/8000th of a second to 30 seconds. The longer it is open the more light that gets let in, but the greater the chance the subject will have moved during the shot.

Aperture This is a system of blades that control the amount of light allowed to enter the camera. This can be anywhere from F1.2 to F32 depending on the lens. Confusingly the smaller the number the greater the opening and the more light is allowed in. Aperture also effects Depth of Field (how deep the area of photo in focus is). A large Aperture like F2.8 will produce very shallow depth of field.

ISO Like Film this is how sensitive the Sensor is to light. Typically this will vary from iso100 to iso1600 (or even higher on recent models) The higher the number the more sensitive the sensor is to light, but the more noise in the photo.



How to use my DSLR:

There are 4 main settings to consider on your camera:

There are Auto settings (green box) or P will sort out the camera so you get a photo in the light conditions. However they don’t take into account if the subject is moving, if it is stationary etc… We don’t like these settings.


The more complex settings are TV, AV and M (or S and A on a Nikon)

M is Manual, you control everything, best avoided until your getting the hang of TV and AV (see below)

TV is Shutter priority mode. In this mode you set the shutter speed/ISO and the camera will work out a suitable Aperture for your current ISO/Shutter speed to get you a properly exposed photo. Adjusted using the little wheel just below the shutter release.

AV is Aperture priority. In this mode you set the Aperture/ISO and the camera will select a suitable shutter speed so the picture is exposed correctly. Adjusted using the little wheel just below the shutter release.

With both of these settings the camera still doesn’t know what you really want to take a photo of, however it allows you to set the shutter speed/aperture to a suitable setting.

TV/Shutter priority is the more common mode to use as you need to make sure the shutter speed is not too low and you don’t end up with a blurry shot. There is a simple way to make sure the shutter speed is correctly set. It should always be no lower than the length of lens you are using.
For example if I am using a 250mm lens (or a longer zoom lens set at 250mm) then I would set my shutter speed to 1/250th as a minimum. Faster is always better. I very barely drop below 1/400th of a second, this will allow for shots of most things moving with little chance of blurr.

Why would you use AV/Aperture priority? If you wanted to control the depth of field, either having a very shallow area in focus (low F Number) to help seperate the subject from the background. Or a large area in focus (large F number) if you wanted everything in the shot to be sharp.

An example:

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What do all the other buttons do?


Without writing an explanation for every single camera the basics that you will also need to work out are:

AF Points

This is where you tell the camera where it is going to look to auto focus.

When you look through the camera you may have noticed there are a number of boxes dotted around the view finder in a diamond shape. Well you can choose any of these boxes individually or all of them at once or just let the camera take a wild stab in the dark.

Say in the below shot i have used one of the l/h side AF spots as the thing i want in focus is on the l/h side of the frame.

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I would try and always use a specific AF point, even if you just leave it on the centre one and make sure your subject is always in the middle of the frame. The logo for this is a diamond of squares like you see through your viewfinder.





Metering mode

This in lamens terms is where you tell the camera to work out how bright it is. There are normally 3/4 settings

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Evaluative, Gives it a good guess, will work for 99% of stuff unless the background is very bright/dark as it takes an average based on your AF point.

Partial Looks at the middle 10% of the image

Spot Just looks at the middle (or selected AF Point). Good for subjects that are very dark/bright compared to background.

C/W Average Just looks at the whole photo, but considers the middle's opinion slightly more valuable than the outside.



The button to change the ISO

Either set this to auto or try and keep it as low as possible. Auto may be better while you get used to the new settings.


The Auto Focus Mode


There are 3 modes here, They do the following:

One shot AF You focus on subject (first stage of the shutter release) the camera beeps, it has now held focus and so long as you keep your finger held down it wont change. Good for things that dont move. Castles or walls or something.

AI Servo This mode never locks focus, as long as you have your finger pushed down on the first stage of the shutter it will focus wherever you point it.

AI Focus The camera does a bit of both of the above settings. This is used when a subject might move a small amount. Trying to do portraits of the family or dogs or something. I've never found a use for this mode.

Shot Type

Nice and simple, do you want 1 shot per press, or do you want the camera to keep taking shots untill you take your finger off the shutter release. I would use the later as we all have such fine trigger control on this forum. The logo to find this is normally lots of boxes ontop of each other. You can also set timers for self portraits/family pics, but this isnt for men.
 
  Oil Burner
Strangely a Clay pigeon shooting forum.... Pretty much all forums seem to have a strong photography following these days.

I know if i posted it on Talk Photography they would rip it to bits for the few areas i have glossed over.
 
  Skoda Fabia Vrs 180b
haha yeah, they can be an odd bunch over there. unless you know everything there is to know about cameras you are entering a minefield!
 
  Oil Burner
Its worth signing up to. I don't use photography Forum, but Talk Photography has a wealth of information on there. Use the search function to look for existing threads before starting your own thread.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Thanks for all the tips guys. Very impressed.

How good is the D50?
 


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