Claybars

[Jay.S]

The postman has been but no-one was in . Ready for collection.

I didnt get an e-mail saying it has been dispatched so it could be something else.

 

[RussZS]

Of course i have tardis

i have Menz203s to follow it up afterwards then followed by my BF GEP, AFPP then my new Vics which will go in with this order.

Vics won't bond to AFPP properly, given its uniquely slick polymers...

As for clay, stick to BH Soft, cut it into four and you have a very cost effective clay, with water as lube

 

[Jay.S]

Vics won't bond to AFPP properly, given its uniquely slick polymers...

As for clay, stick to BH Soft, cut it into four and you have a very cost effective clay, with water as lube

I will either leave the AFFP out or top with my Orange crush.

Too late got the Zaino Z18 lol.

 

[Yellow Dave]

I think Russ means normal waxes wont work over AFPP. A post on detailing world by Rich of Polished Bliss:

...very few waxes sit comfortably on top of AFPP, because the polymer used to make it is a fussy one that repels natural waxes. This is why Blackfire have engineered there own wax to contain a lot of the same polymer... it's the only way they could get their wax to bond to their sealant properly! We've tried layering a number of waxes over AFPP and in many cases we've suffered poor durability and/or streaking upon application (to the extent that a full strip back was needed). Thus, we only ever use Midnight Sun over AFPP. Anything else is too risky.

 

[Cliotoby]

Me and my mate call Tim @ CYC "The Jew"

Quite simply because he is a tight fisted wanker.

 

[Jay.S]

I think Russ means normal waxes wont work over AFPP. A post on detailing world by Rich of Polished Bliss:

...very few waxes sit comfortably on top of AFPP, because the polymer used to make it is a fussy one that repels natural waxes. This is why Blackfire have engineered there own wax to contain a lot of the same polymer... it's the only way they could get their wax to bond to their sealant properly! We've tried layering a number of waxes over AFPP and in many cases we've suffered poor durability and/or streaking upon application (to the extent that a full strip back was needed). Thus, we only ever use Midnight Sun over AFPP. Anything else is too risky.

Cool thanks Dave I will leave the AFPP out of this clean then, top my GEP with Vics.

 

[P17 TOO]

When you say AFPP I take it you mean Blackfire All Finish Paint Protection???

When Jim detailed my car this is what he used so when I actually decide to put some wax on it I might have problems then??

 

[Gally]

Most of the time Jim uses AFPP on it's own, I don't think he has time to wait 12 hours to apply Midnight sun even if he has it.

I'd be confident enough to say after 24/48 hours of curing i'd happily top AFPP with a wax. What's the worst that could happen?

Trial and error mate.

 

[P17 TOO]

No he didn't top with anything but said I could do with some sealant/wax.

I just read that quote above and thought I might actually mess up Jim's work when I put some wax on. Don't really want to be stripping back what I've paid for!

 

[Gally]

I think you misunderstand. You won't strip anything back. If anything goes wrong it'll only be the wax on top of the afpp that will fail, not the sealant itself.

You think one of the best detailers in the country would tell you to top it if you can't?

 

[Jay.S]

No he didn't top with anything but said I could do with some sealant/wax.

I just read that quote above and thought I might actually mess up Jim's work when I put some wax on. Don't really want to be stripping back what I've paid for!

Buy some AFPP and just top yours up if your worried. It is very good I had one layer on and it lasted about 6weeks maybe more.

I will miss it out this time, if it does react I don't have the time to put it right again.