Clio 1 vs Clio 2

[TheJesus]

surely this is enough to bring back driving tales... clearly people want to talk about their RS performance and have a bit of banter and this is the most touchy subject and has stayed not only on topic, but has remained civil... so it begs the question that non CS members and Reno owners are the people that turned these sour and personal... come on admin, someone told me you guys were human

 

[Turkish]

Ah but what nationality ?

 

[Lagerlout]

lol...

Driving tales ist mein lieblingsfach..

 

[TheJesus]

oi f**kers, i was being serious(ish) for a change then! lol

 

[Scott]

Quote: Originally posted by matty w on 06 September 2005

Im not trying to contradict you but every clio 16v ive been in has really slow,my mates got one and he gets thrashed by 1.4sri corsas,id be surprised if a 16v was quicker than 205 1.6gti

LMFAO!! if your bein serious and not just tryin to stir things up a bit more than your mate is fekkin sh!t driver, bout as true as the fastest 1.2 16v thread

 

[TheJesus]

Quote: Originally posted by Scott1987 on 06 September 2005

Quote: Originally posted by matty w on 06 September 2005

Im not trying to contradict you but every clio 16v ive been in has really slow,my mates got one and he gets thrashed by 1.4sri corsas,id be surprised if a 16v was quicker than 205 1.6gti

LMFAO!! if your bein serious and not just tryin to stir things up a bit more than your mate is fekkin sh!t driver, bout as true as the fastest 1.2 16v thread

thing is I can well believe people thinking this, as most people dont know what hell they are doing, especially kids behind the wheel. the valvers need to be worked hard in order to get the most out of them, if you dont Corsas etc will prolly push you around... I know this because my mates valver which is a quickun got a pasting of a Corsa 1.8Sri, he almost got done over by a Fezza Zetec S as well, but thankfully the runway was long enough to gain, pass and salvage some self respect. so Matty should really have put, "some of my mates have valvers, but none of us can drive for sh*t and even slow ass Corsas can get past us on the straights... no seriously, our driving is the lamest"

 

[Martin]

PMSL! Great thread...

 

[Mattie h]

lol....so which clio are we sayin is the best?

 

[Swervin_Mervin]

mk1 I think was the outcome.

 

[seb]

errrrrrrrrr no, i think youll find its the mk2...

 

[Day]

The Mk3 will wipe the floor with us all so lets all hug and get over it.

 

[Martin]

I think we undecided between the williams 1,2 & 3....gotta be the original and the best willy 1 imo.

 

[Martin]

Quote: Originally posted by Day on 06 September 2005

The Mk3 will wipe the floor with us all so lets all hug and get over it.

Isnt the mk3 gonna be heavier than the titanic with worse handling?

 

[MATT BLACK]

i am hardcore clio but........the 205 is the better car - im sorry

 

[JayR]

imo if the williams was never made then the 16v would deffo be a classic if were talkin 205s and gti golfs bein them but the fact is the williams was made!!!

205s can only be classed as classics for performance reasons and as for golfs well the same really..............They didnt get nice til mk4 imo!!!

If theres any outdated cars out there the 2 imo and i didnt think the golfs were meant to be any better performance why than a valver so how can they be anyway? I get people with alot newer cars (better cars than clios mk1 or 2 by far) that sit in my leather and say how comfortable it is and i know the cloth on the phase 2s are dead comfy aswell!!!

For the record if id wanted a 172 id have got one and modded it like i have my mint valver.............Its all personal preferance people but i must say there seems to be plenty of snobbery on here from the mk2 owners!!!

 

[matty w]

Quote: Originally posted by Scott1987 on 06 September 2005

Quote: Originally posted by matty w on 06 September 2005

Im not trying to contradict you but every clio 16v ive been in has really slow,my mates got one and he gets thrashed by 1.4sri corsas,id be surprised if a 16v was quicker than 205 1.6gti

LMFAO!! if your bein serious and not just tryin to stir things up a bit more than your mate is fekkin sh!t driver, bout as true as the fastest 1.2 16v thread

You dont have to be a good driver in a stright line its just not quick,you get good 16vs and bad ones,and not to stir this up anymore but if the 1.8 16v is such a good lump why are there so many 2.0litre conversions,

I love 16vs before anyone starts i just think there underpowered

 

[Rip3z]

You have to know when to change gears to get maximum acceleration...

 

[JayR]

^^^Lol

I dont really thinks it makes THAT much difference in straightnlines mate........For instance changing at 6.9 instead of hittin the red at 7k aint gonna make a whole load of diffence!!

 

[richy]

Quote: Originally posted by matty w on 06 September 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Scott1987 on 06 September 2005

Quote: Originally posted by matty w on 06 September 2005

Im not trying to contradict you but every clio 16v ive been in has really slow,my mates got one and he gets thrashed by 1.4sri corsas,id be surprised if a 16v was quicker than 205 1.6gti

LMFAO!! if your bein serious and not just tryin to stir things up a bit more than your mate is fekkin sh!t driver, bout as true as the fastest 1.2 16v thread

You dont have to be a good driver in a stright line its just not quick,you get good 16vs and bad ones,and not to stir this up anymore but if the 1.8 16v is such a good lump why are there so many 2.0litre conversions,

I love 16vs before anyone starts i just think there underpowered

not being funny but my saxo vtr used top pan corsa 1.4 sris lol, and my sisters 16v clio panned the vtr!

 

[FATBOY]

the words "sh*t" and "stir" come to mind!

 

[JayR]

Matty w thats the biggest load of bull about 1.4 SRis, was your mate changing at 4k?

My mate had a well modded GSi and i had my 17s on an 1.8 lump in and from standing he was pretty good in first and second but then after it was by by time..........If i had my 15s on then it no doubt would have been bye bye from first onwoods!!!

I dont claim the 1.8s to be brill which is why i changed but they are gonna be alot quicker than 1.4s and 1.6 corsas fact!!!

 

[matty w]

Quote: Originally posted by richy on 06 September 2005

Quote: Originally posted by matty w on 06 September 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Scott1987 on 06 September 2005

Quote: Originally posted by matty w on 06 September 2005

Im not trying to contradict you but every clio 16v ive been in has really slow,my mates got one and he gets thrashed by 1.4sri corsas,id be surprised if a 16v was quicker than 205 1.6gti

LMFAO!! if your bein serious and not just tryin to stir things up a bit more than your mate is fekkin sh!t driver, bout as true as the fastest 1.2 16v thread

You dont have to be a good driver in a stright line its just not quick,you get good 16vs and bad ones,and not to stir this up anymore but if the 1.8 16v is such a good lump why are there so many 2.0litre conversions,

I love 16vs before anyone starts i just think there underpowered

not being funny but my saxo vtr used top pan corsa 1.4 sris lol, and my sisters 16v clio panned the vtr!

Yeah like i just said you get good ones and bad ones

 

[JayR]

A dicky bird tells me this threads been started by a group from another renault sportsclub anyway so wind up it is and it looks like its worked!!!Lol

Sorry to burst your bubble lads but this threads got sh*t now!!!

 

[matty w]

Quote: Originally posted by JayR on 06 September 2005


A dicky bird tells me this threads been started by a group from another renault sportsclub anyway so wind up it is and it looks like its worked!!!Lol

Sorry to burst your bubble lads but this threads got sh*t now!!!

I hope you dont think im one of these starting trouble,i swear to god thats true about the 16v, the sri had got quite a bit done to it,i dont wanna put any renault down im a massive fan,

 

[JayR]

Lol didnt say you mate............Your one of the "mk2 ass bandits" there targeting!!!

Highly/Lightly modded or not mate im afraid the only corsa thats staying with or maybe beating a valver good or bad is the 2.0 16v hybrids which aint bad!!!

I wouldnt have said mine was slow but it wernt one of the fast ones specially with the 17s on and i would have pasted standard or modded GSis all day everyday!!!

I dont see how theres much that can be done to a 1.4 or 1.6 corsa anyway whichis why many go for the 2.0 cov on them aswell............You mate mustve had a major dud, what was the milage and condition like?

 

[nuttynutter123]

had a 205 1.9 gti and now got a valver... 205 was good, great handling.. but thats it... interior is terrible.. complety dated...

much prefer the valver.. comfy and decent...

mk2s are sh*te!!! simple

 

[matty w]

Quote: Originally posted by JayR on 06 September 2005


Lol didnt say you mate............Your one of the "mk2 ass bandits" there targeting!!!

Highly/Lightly modded or not mate im afraid the only corsa thats staying with or maybe beating a valver good or bad is the 2.0 16v hybrids which aint bad!!!

I wouldnt have said mine was slow but it wernt one of the fast ones specially with the 17s on and i would have pasted standard or modded GSis all day everyday!!!

I dont see how theres much that can be done to a 1.4 or 1.6 corsa anyway whichis why many go for the 2.0 cov on them aswell............You mate mustve had a major dud, what was the milage and condition like?

I hate getting into these this is quicker than that,he brought the 16v with a scrap engine and put a 1.8 16v engine out of a 19,i have absolutely nothing to gain from saying this,there owners club must be really interesting if theyve gotta start threads on other sites

 

[Turkish]

There are a couple of decent mk1 owners in this thread up for a bit of banter but sadly there are also a couple of obnoxious sulking sh*ts with a chip on their shoulder about mk2s.

cant we all kiss and make-up over a nice tin of

http://media.venda.com/focus/ebiz/focus/invt/460576/460576.jpg

 

[JayR]

^^^Hear hear loon but theres deffo some of that from the mk2 owners aswell!!!

I dont care which is better tbh as as i said its all personal preference........I Prefered the mk1 to the mk2, i have mates who prefer the mk2 to mine but thats there choice!!!

 

[bang]

Quote: Originally posted by matty w on 06 September 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Scott1987 on 06 September 2005

Quote: Originally posted by matty w on 06 September 2005

Im not trying to contradict you but every clio 16v ive been in has really slow,my mates got one and he gets thrashed by 1.4sri corsas,id be surprised if a 16v was quicker than 205 1.6gti

LMFAO!! if your bein serious and not just tryin to stir things up a bit more than your mate is fekkin sh!t driver, bout as true as the fastest 1.2 16v thread

You dont have to be a good driver in a stright line its just not quick,you get good 16vs and bad ones,and not to stir this up anymore but if the 1.8 16v is such a good lump why are there so many 2.0litre conversions,

I love 16vs before anyone starts i just think there underpowered

ahh but have you noticed how they all sell (or in some cases try to) them fairly quickly after haveing the 2.0 conversion?

only quicker after 60mph as standard.

still prefer a hybrid though as at least they come in more than one colour.

 

[matty w]

Quote: Originally posted by Loony on 06 September 2005

There are a couple of decent mk1 owners in this thread up for a bit of banter but sadly there are also a couple of obnoxious sulking sh*ts with a chip on their shoulder about mk2s.

cant we all kiss and make-up over a nice tin of

http://media.venda.com/focus/ebiz/focus/invt/460576/460576.jpg

agreed loony some really sound blokes,but It seems like theres a few which are happy when there ripping into mk2s but arnt so keen having a bit back,i wonder if renault 5 owners had the same arguement when the mk1 clio came out ?

 

[Turkish]

I know it will sound biased but in all the time ive been on this forum id say the constant slating of one Mk of clio is more frequently by mk1 owners about mk2s and their owners.

Granted most of it takes place on other forums but its usually by people who also frequent this one. Youll find although they may not own one for various personal preferences despite owning a mk2 most mk2 owners have respect for willys and valvers and the only time they will make digs is when in retaliation to an insult from a mk1 owner.

 

[Scott]

i think i know which site your refering to loony, agreed some can be bitchy about the mk2s, but really its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

imo a valver is a great car if you want summat you can chuck about and not be too afraid to do so, its fairly cheap motorin with a lot of fun thrown in. and its still a capble car by todays hot hatch standards, admittedly it does look a bit dated but theres not many ten year old cars that dont.

a willy is for those who want something a bit more special than a valver, its more of a collectors item and will fetch more in years to come, then theres the which is better sh*t a 1, 2 , or 3?

a 172/182 etc is for people who want the same fun motoring with a rapid car, thats got more comforts/toys than say a valaver or williams, and many people simply dont want to drive an older car be it because of snobbery or because they dont want to have to pay regular repair bills.

then theres the vees which is just a special car cos its so unique

the trophy is basically by todays standards what the williams was when it was released, although its always gonna be debatlbe as to whether or not its as special and will have the same following in years to come.

everybody is gonna have their own opinions as to which they think is better, but a decision will never be made in a club that is for so many different models. i have only talked about the sport models as theres too many variants to do all the lesser spec models, <--- that is in no way intended to be a derogetory remark, and i have tried to be as unbiased as possible in the wording of my post.

and breathe...................

 

[clowo16v]

Ive driven my Valver and both a minter 205 GTI 1.6 and a GTI 1.9 and I prefer the valver. The handling was flatter on the 205s, but I couldnt corner any faster than I do in the Valver. The Valvers a fair bit quicker in a straight line aswell.

Renault build quality isnt the best, but Peugeot are taking the piss. On the 1.6 I had a go in it was a 25000 mile minter. Went to open the drivers window the bloody handle fell off. The interiors just feel very cheap tbh.

The Ph2 Valver interior doesnt look dated to me at all, and the seats are the comfiest OEM seats ive ever sat in.

See ya

Matt

 

[matty w]

Quote: Originally posted by Scott1987 on 06 September 2005


i think i know which site your refering to loony, agreed some can be bitchy about the mk2s, but really its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

imo a valver is a great car if you want summat you can chuck about and not be too afraid to do so, its fairly cheap motorin with a lot of fun thrown in. and its still a capble car by todays hot hatch standards, admittedly it does look a bit dated but theres not many ten year old cars that dont.

a willy is for those who want something a bit more special than a valver, its more of a collectors item and will fetch more in years to come, then theres the which is better sh*t a 1, 2 , or 3?

a 172/182 etc is for people who want the same fun motoring with a rapid car, thats got more comforts/toys than say a valaver or williams, and many people simply dont want to drive an older car be it because of snobbery or because they dont want to have to pay regular repair bills.

then theres the vees which is just a special car cos its so unique

the trophy is basically by todays standards what the williams was when it was released, although its always gonna be debatlbe as to whether or not its as special and will have the same following in years to come.

everybody is gonna have their own opinions as to which they think is better, but a decision will never be made in a club that is for so many different models. i have only talked about the sport models as theres too many variants to do all the lesser spec models, <--- that is in no way intended to be a derogetory remark, and i have tried to be as unbiased as possible in the wording of my post.

and breathe...................

Some very good comments there scott,i didnt have my 172 through snobbery though,i had it cause i work all the hours god sent on 24hour call repairing burst mains getting soaked through and covered in mud,and i wanted a valver but bought a 172 for a bit of comfort out of work

 

[Donnie Darko]

Tbh ppl i like the valver but i also like the clio 172/182 golf vr6/corrado escort rs turbo!

they are all fun little cars, but at the end of the day i know my valver / nor a 2.0 conv is never gonna set the world on fire is it!

we shud all send each other flowers

 

[clowo16v]

Lets start a new debate:

Golf VR6 - incredible car with good performance and handling (so my mate says) or sh*te car that cant keep up with a car with 2 cylinders and a litre less displacement, and 35bhp less (so I say)

See ya

Matt

 

[FlamingMonkey]

http://www.coates.eclipse.co.uk/enginemount.jpg

 

[Lagerlout]

-+ROFPMSL^^^^!!!!

 

[nuttynutter123]

lol... vr6 are a little front heavy... rather have a mk1 clio lol