Clio 172 vs Yammaha fazer fzs600

sharkaroo · Mar 16, 2006

Anyone raced one, my friend wants a little legal race but im reluctant to do it cos ill look like a tw@.

Scott 172 · Mar 16, 2006

No point imo.

nick s · Mar 16, 2006

lol! what a question! maybe on a set of twisties you will keep up but no way in a straight line

Dan_mk1 · Mar 16, 2006

You'll get battered, lol

sharkaroo · Mar 16, 2006

He keeps asking me everyday, keep saying no. but im getting to the point where i just wanna go out and beat him! probably be best not to bother!! his bike isnt in the best condition so dunnno!

Scott 172 · Mar 16, 2006

if hes any good at riding it hell be off and away beforte you change out of first gear.

Rich · Mar 16, 2006

What's a legal race !?!

sharkaroo · Mar 16, 2006

0 - 60?!! track day??!

Rich · Mar 16, 2006

He will kill you 0-60, don't know of any UK track sessions open to bikes and cars in the same session.

jon_r · Mar 16, 2006

Agreed, in a straight line you might as well not bother. Around a track? Well it depends how commited he is!

Englebert · Mar 16, 2006

Find a decent b road and watch him eat your dust! Never seen a rider have the balls or skills to keep up with a vaguely fast car on the twisties.

The Hoff · Mar 16, 2006

I can keep ahead of my mate down a local B road, but towards the end of the road theres a 1/2 mile straight - where predicatably he destroys me. He rides a brand new Kawasaki ZX6-R though

davo172cup · Mar 16, 2006

i can keep up with my mates 400 but not a 600, they just s**t all over me!
round twistys u nite have the advantage cos u can go round faster but as soon as the straights come back he'll leave u!

Jones · Mar 16, 2006

LOL you have to be having a laugh, they do 0-60 in 3.6 sec i dont even think you'll have him round a track either to be honest

Jonaldinho · Mar 16, 2006

Unless the thing is proper fucked your going to get killed mate!

mike172lpool · Mar 16, 2006

what a stupid question i had an rs 125cc track bike that was quicker to 0-60 than my 172

artic blue · Mar 16, 2006

you might win if he falls off and you accidently run over him (just a thought?):dapprove:

jongsr4 · Mar 16, 2006

lol no way in a million years, I thought my Mitsi evo would be able to put up a small fight against a bike a few years ago....how wrong was i lol, barely saw which way it went!

I finally realised how fast bikes were a couple of years ago, when i got myself a gsxr600.....scary fast!

although i have to say it does depend on the riders skill as its much harder to ride a bike quicly than drive a car quickly

Tim Lennox · Mar 16, 2006

lol....bikes eat all cars for lunch...no chance...although my mates 800bhp lancer eats everything and then some. Its gonna be on top gear soon to prove that it can out accelerate an F1 600bhp V8 and then a Focus WRC works rally car and then a Bugatti Veyron....yes you read me correctly....and itrs his wifes shopping car!

Ian_182 · Mar 16, 2006

You need a TVR if you want to race bikes and even then you need to be doing around 60mph when the race starts to have a chance

ian

M.C.. · Mar 16, 2006

not a chance
heres some rough performance figures for my 72bhp sv650
the fazer has about 90bhp
when i have been out on my bike and cars have tried to race me i have left them without even trying
0 – 30 = 1.34 sec
0 – 60 = 3.20 sec
0 – 90 = 6.79 sec
0 – 100 = 8.76 sec

40 – 60 = 3.27 sec
60 – 80 = 3.90 sec

The Hoff · Mar 17, 2006

Unless you've tuned your SV650 those times are way out mate!

Suzuki SV650
Performance
Corrected 1/4 mile: 11.87 sec. @ 110.02 mph
0-60 mph: 3.65 sec.
0-100 mph: 9.94 sec.
Top-gear roll-on, 60-80 mph: 4.44 sec.
Fuel mileage (low/high/average): 38/44/41
Cruising range (exc. reserve): 147 miles

Be very surprised if your SV650 booted quicker than a ZX6-R 636 Ninja.

Matt ATR · Mar 17, 2006

Rich said:
He will kill you 0-60, don't know of any UK track sessions open to bikes and cars in the same session.

time a trip to the 'ring then - you'll get murdered though...

Tyson-182 · Mar 17, 2006

Dont bother, you will get mullered...

Tyson.

David_Snaresbrook · Mar 17, 2006

If he can ride the bike properly, he should leave you sitting. However the fazer isnt the best bike for slinging through the bends, but he still shouldnt have any problem.

If you do beat him, then he is a pussy and cant ride a bike properly, and should sell it to someone who can, lol.

Im getting rid of my CUP and getting an R6 instead

warine_warrior · Mar 17, 2006

bikes rule

Jones · Mar 17, 2006

warine_warrior said:
mountain bikes rule

Agreed

russ_0016 · Mar 17, 2006

cliobuyer said:
Find a decent b road and watch him eat your dust! Never seen a rider have the balls or skills to keep up with a vaguely fast car on the twisties.

You aint met me! cat and fiddle road in buxton way a while ago canned a mk1 172 on my zxr 400, round the corners i was only marginally faster but not knee down as there's a eff off drop if you run out of road, and the straights well no question. But i do know the road well the guy was pushing, we had a nice chat at the pub over a coke afterwards. The big difference is there's no room for error on a bike or ya off, you might slide a bit in a car?

I wouldn't say i got the balls just missing the fear factor when it comes to riding a bike! Scuffed knee sliders and shredded tyres on a 400 always make the R1, GSXR1000 riders squirm!

Anyway back on topic no bikes are mega fast around corners compared to a car, especially a sports tourer like a fazer so you peobably would beathim on the twisties, but with around 100hp on tap from the 600 the straights are no contest.

M.C.. · Mar 17, 2006

Ozzo99 those figures were got from sv650.org a while ago i don't know how accurate they are but it gives the rough performance of a 'normal' bike and it's a dam sight faster than most cars.

midge · Mar 17, 2006

where can i get the figures for a bandit 400?

Tim Lennox · Mar 17, 2006

russ_0016 said:
Anyway back on topic no bikes are mega fast around corners compared to a car, especially a sports tourer like a fazer so you peobably would beathim on the twisties, but with around 100hp on tap from the 600 the straights are no contest.

Ermmm....do you ever watch the Moto Grand Prix races or have ever been to a road race like the TT.....tell those guys they can't go around corners very fast and they'll probably not even comment...bikes do everything quicker!

rory182 · Mar 17, 2006

ZX6-R 636 is by far the fastest in its class, the new Triumph 675 may be quicker, dunno yet. but that extra 36cc makes all the difference, 0-60 especially, it's even quicker than the homologation 600 race bikes to 60, but they skin it over the 1/4mile.

SV650 is nowhere near as quick as a Ninja.

as for racing a 600cc bike in a hot hatch, dont be daft total waste of time.

Take it to the B-roads and give me a 400cc supermoto anyday

Karlos182 · Mar 17, 2006

Tim Lennox said:
Ermmm....do you ever watch the Moto Grand Prix races or have ever been to a road race like the TT.....tell those guys they can't go around corners very fast and they'll probably not even comment...bikes do everything quicker!

If you're going to start talking about Moto GP, then the car equivalent is F1, and they would kill a Moto GP bike around any circuit. While the bikes may corner pretty quick, they can't ever pull any more than 1G of downforce. Cars have aerodynamics, and tyre grip, on their side, which means they can corner much faster than bikes, and F1 cars can corner with the force of several Gs.

russ_0016 · Mar 18, 2006

Karlos69 said:
If you're going to start talking about Moto GP, then the car equivalent is F1, and they would kill a Moto GP bike around any circuit. While the bikes may corner pretty quick, they can't ever pull any more than 1G of downforce. Cars have aerodynamics, and tyre grip, on their side, which means they can corner much faster than bikes, and F1 cars can corner with the force of several Gs.

That was my point - like for like? get a decent road car im talking a elise (good handelling car anyway) or somethin and round corners it will be faster than a road bike!

Nightfire · Mar 20, 2006

midge said:
where can i get the figures for a bandit 400?

1200 http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/suzuki_bandit_1200_s_2005.php
600 http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/suzuki_gsf_600_s_bandit_1996.php
400 http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/suzuki_bandit_400_1992.php
Make sure popup blocker is turned on! Friggin ads all over the place on them links

Stevie · Mar 20, 2006

I've only had two races with bikes and got wasted on both occasions, they are seriously fast! I recon you'll need an Evo FQ400 / Enzo / McLaren F1 to really compete!

Scott 172 · Mar 20, 2006

Or you could just by a bike? lol

Stevie · Mar 20, 2006

^^ lol or a bike yeh :clown:

Mark_Petty · Mar 20, 2006

Take a look at http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/downloads/carmotorcycleperformancecharts1.htm

I'm afraid u wouldn't have a hope in hell lol

Stevie · Mar 20, 2006

ok fair enough, what about a drag car!

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