Coilovers - H&R vs GAZ?

[200 Alex]

I've come to the conclusion that its proving difficult to find a decent 182 trophy. So I'm going to have to bite the bullet and buy a normal 182 cup or 182 with cup suspension.

My question is this.

There are only a few coilovers on the market that are fully adjustable front and rear. With damping adjusters as well. Which ones are the pic of the bunch?

I'm tempted by the H&R's but kam racing don't mention if the damping is adjustable? If they aren't then I will have to hold for GAZ golds.

I need it to be adjustable as it will be my daily as well as track car.

Thoughts on H&R vs GAZ?

 

[Nickson]

There are more than just the ones you've listed!

H&R, KW, FK etc etc.

All of which will come highly recommended from here.

GAZ on the other hand. Stay well away!

You will only have problems, that is speaking from experience.

If it is between the two, H&R till the cows come home.

 

[JamesBryan]

The SPAX rsx kit fits the 182.

Seem highly rated on here. Speak to Danny@519Automotive i think he can supply them.

 

[182_Adam]

I've got gaz gha's on my 182 which have height and damping. I've had no issues what so ever and for the £600 i spent i'm happy.

 

[Sir_Dave]

Nothing wrong with H&Rs on a track car. I fitted them to the Trophy for a change, & that did nothing but get spanked on track.

Also, uve been looking for a Trophy for a week lol, theres about 8 for sale at the moment iirc.

 

[200 Alex]

There are more than just the ones you've listed!

H&R, KW, FK etc etc.

All of which will come highly recommended from here.

GAZ on the other hand. Stay well away!

You will only have problems, that is speaking from experience.

If it is between the two, H&R till the cows come home.

Thanks mate, really helpful

Do the H&R ones comes with damping/rebound adjustment? I know they are height adjustable front and rear.

 

[200 Alex]

Nothing wrong with H&Rs on a track car. I fitted them to the Trophy for a change, & that did nothing but get spanked on track.

Also, uve been looking for a Trophy for a week lol, theres about 8 for sale at the moment iirc.

I've been looking for a trophy for quite a while before I sold the RS

Are the H&R's damping/rebound adjustable? I know they are height on front and rear

 

[Knuckles]

Ff 182.
trophy spoiler
turinis
sachs
Mark fish springs.

jobe done

 

[mr.pink87]

H&R's have fixed damping (which is pretty good though). But they seem to have problems with getting play in the front struts (speaking from expierence). But i guess coilovers will never be a fit and forget thing .

 

[200 Alex]

Does anybody know how much the spax rsx units lower by? I understand they are damping adjustable, but how much adjustability in the height? K tec list 25mm but surely they go down further?

 

[Stefan.]

ff182 with sach suspension

 

[Chip-mk1]

The SPAX rsx kit fits the 182.

Seem highly rated on here. Speak to Danny@519Automotive i think he can supply them.

Tbh I think the "highly rated on here" is pushing it a bit, can't think of anyone on here with much experience of other kits who like them particuarly, its more people just comparing them to worn out standard suspension raving about them.
Dont get me wrong I'm not saying they are rubbish, they aren't but they are a pretty budget brand and the way some people on here bang on about them its like they are AST equivalent when they are not!

here is cheap if you did decide to go that route:
http://www.dcperformance.co.uk/uprated/spax-rsx-coilovers/renault/clio-b.html


personally I would much sooner have the gaz though, as far as budget coilies go, in fact that's what I do have on mine currently. Will get some proper AST on at some point though probably when I can justify spending a bit more on it (did about 5k on engine and box last month so can't at the moment )

 

[Sir_Dave]

I've been looking for a trophy for quite a while before I sold the RS

Are the H&R's damping/rebound adjustable? I know they are height on front and rear

You're doing it wrong Both Gally, Stan & myself have bought Trophy's (all for less than £4k, decent) within the past 2 weeks lol.

H&R's are fixed, but tbh, unless you really know what you are doing, which most on here dont, there is no need for adjustability imho. The H&R's do suffer from a slightly softer rear damper when compared to the front, but that problem is generally solved by fitting a Whiteline ARB to stiffen up the rear end. They felt VERY similar to my Sachs/Sportline/Whiteline combo, so i was very pleased with the change.

 

[jon_r]

AST's are overkill for 99.9999% of users on here imo.

Try and find yourself a pair of older style H&R's (before they went slightly ropey) and they'll suit all your needs. They are well made and provide a very compliant ride for use on English roads.

 

[Chip-mk1]

AST's are overkill for 99.9999% of users on here imo.

Try and find yourself a pair of older style H&R's (before they went slightly ropey) and they'll suit all your needs. They are well made and provide a very compliant ride for use on English roads.

Yeah the H&R are great on the road IMHO.

 

[200 Alex]

You're doing it wrong Both Gally, Stan & myself have bought Trophy's (all for less than £4k, decent) within the past 2 weeks lol.

H&R's are fixed, but tbh, unless you really know what you are doing, which most on here dont, there is no need for adjustability imho. The H&R's do suffer from a slightly softer rear damper when compared to the front, but that problem is generally solved by fitting a Whiteline ARB to stiffen up the rear end. They felt VERY similar to my Sachs/Sportline/Whiteline combo, so i was very pleased with the change.

I probably am haha!

What is the H&R and white line combo like on track?

 

[Chip-mk1]

I probably am haha!

What is the H&R and white line combo like on track?

Adequete for a car that isnt specifically a track car.

 

[Fletcher]

H&R are fine on the track. My set have been good as gold, now done 60k with them fitted.

 

[jack_davey]

As others have said, you could always buy a 182 cup/cup packed and fit trophy dampers.

That's what I have on mine along with Trophy Turinis, Recaros and Trophy spoiler (if you wanted to go the whole shabang)

 

[Sir_Dave]

What is the H&R and white line combo like on track?

My write up for the Trophy forum:

Well, after fitting them last week, setting the front camber to -2 degrees negative on Friday and doing the Llandow trackday with CS yesterday, i can safely say that the H&R's are very worthy replacement to the Sachs.

Handling is nigh on exactly the same as the Sachs/Sportline combo that i had previously, with an improved ride quality for day to day use. Obviously i have a Whiteline rear ARB that helps stiffen the rear end up a bit - the rear dampers are quite soft when compared to the front (as per the standard kit), but overall it gives nigh on the same handling properties as previously, ie decent front end grip, with a delightful adjustability on the throttle.

Trail brake into corner, turn in, slight lift, rear ends comes into play, lessen steering, accelerate. Wonderful.

So yeah, if your Sachs are knackered, & you want a worthy replacement (albeit for roughly the same money as a front refurb), that drives the same as standard, the choice is most definately H&R.

 

[200 Alex]

Cheers for the thoughts guys! I really appreciate it. I ended up going for Spax RSX (the dearer ones). I'll report back next week with how they feel once I get them fitted