cone filter, strut brace

[JJ!]

There are plenty of faster and better engineered cars out there than the Clio TT, granted its fast. But there are faster evo's out there.

 

[MATT BLACK]

Interesting...so you now admit that they actually do something

Ans : Only quality ones are specially fabricated "rigid" types which dont distort - not OMP s**t as i 1st stated in the original post ?????????



Im sure that welding a bar from turret to turret will be the ultimate but im sure there are not many wanting to have their car welded.


Ans : Exactly - most are for show and never put to extreme track use as we both know especially a 21 year old girl that has never raced her car - you and i know it will be for show and nothing else.



Its nice to see that you are talking technical again and not boasting about you engineering skills, your car or guessing peoples technical capacity.

Ans : anyone can go and buy a fast car and track it ( like you & many others ) . To actually build your own and outperform modern day high performance cars takes great skill and engineering knowledge. This is done by testing products such as the mentioned "strut brace" and through a process of elimination finding out which excells others tested on a track or strip. I and many others have found that cheap parts such as the OMP brace doesnt help a bit, you have to spend lots of money to achieve supremity or build the parts to your own spec and satisfaction of which i and many others have done.


Merry christmas btw - and take it easy in that Family saloon of yours.

 

[MATT BLACK]

There are plenty of faster and better engineered cars out there than the Clio TT, granted its fast. But there are faster evo's out there.

Damn right there are better cars out there - thats what has given me the inspiration to build my car - i wont stop till i get in the 10's and hopefully be the 1st FWD car in the UK to achieve this.

Now what do you drive ?????

 

[EVOgone]

Interesting...so you now admit that they actually do something

Ans : Only quality ones are specially fabricated "rigid" types which dont distort - not OMP sh*t as i 1st stated in the original post ?????????



Im sure that welding a bar from turret to turret will be the ultimate but im sure there are not many wanting to have their car welded.


Ans : Exactly - most are for show and never put to extreme track use as we both know especially a 21 year old girl that has never raced her car - you and i know it will be for show and nothing else.



Its nice to see that you are talking technical again and not boasting about you engineering skills, your car or guessing peoples technical capacity.

Ans : anyone can go and buy a fast car and track it ( like you & many others ) . To actually build your own and outperform modern day high performance cars takes great skill and engineering knowledge. This is done by testing products such as the mentioned "strut brace" and through a process of elimination finding out which excells others tested on a track or strip. I and many others have found that cheap parts such as the OMP brace doesnt help a bit, you have to spend lots of money to achieve supremity or build the parts to your own spec and satisfaction of which i and many others have done.


Merry christmas btw - and take it easy in that Family saloon of yours.

As stated having an OMP strut brace fitted correctly does perform better than none at all and there have been many to agree on this. The cup racer have OMp strut braces on the front as per the pic in the thread, please dont say they are crap and dont work as its rubbish. FACT.

Regards to building a car from scratch, then alls you have done is but a different manufactures engine in the car (common place). FACT.

Your statement "will whoop any production car on the qtr mile or on track" seems to have change to "will outperform modern high performance car" WELL DONE FOR REALISING IT WAS UTTER RUBBISH.

The Audi is a company car and a very nice one too (50mpg).....for me it all about enjoying yourself and thats down to your driving abilities and not your BHP.



Drop in for a mince pie anytime......

 

[Dan@SJM]

It does take alot to build your own car, i was building a Mini with a vtec conversion, but ran out of money, fabricated all the Subframe and everything!

 

[TheJesus]

what's more of a scally car? one with ridiculous wings and spoilers and fog lights bigger than the average mans head, or a completely bog standard
Clio? you know what a chav is? I don't think a chav would have a TT powered Clio, they would be antagonising passers by for bus fare change...

for the record Yoz couldn't keep up round Brunty... I don't know how good a driver Matt is, but I'll guess that Yoz is the more experienced track driver... i've seen this car waste a 450bhp Skyline, so I cant see an Evo being a problem... unless at the lights, but most roads that you are able to do that on will be more than a 1/4 mile, so the Evo's going to get it's arse well and truely handed to it.

as for strut braces dont bother, waste of time on a road car... good if you track it I suppose and like dents in your roof...

 

[Neil G]

Absolute nonsense

Even a stock FQ300 would be quicker in 'real world' driving conditions

As for a modified one....no chance

 

[MATT BLACK]

Absolute nonsense

Even a stock FQ300 would be quicker in 'real world' driving conditions

As for a modified one....no chance

Dont get involved in things you know nothing about. Here is an FQ300 with a 331bhp upgrade. Check out his qtr times -

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/411217

Thats half a second slower than mine with the same hp ( 330 ) and 4WD + ive recorded the same 0-60 time as him as well - so with the new 400 hp upgrade you are gonna need an FQ400 to be competitive - you lot are digging yourself a f**king hole now

 

[edmy]

kept out of this for as long as i could..
matts clio tt is awsome i had 290bhp rb5 and it wasted it, so then i went and bought a 500ftlb/450bhp skyline and it could keep up no problem! im sorry mate but the evos are fast cars but there no were near the perfomance of matts car round a track or up the strip!

as far as the strut brace is concerned wat mat is trying to say the OMP one flexes which defeats the object of a strut brace im sure u will agree.

 

[MATT BLACK]

A man that talks sense at last

 

[c__w]

for the record Yoz couldn't keep up round Brunty... I don't know how good a driver Matt is, but I'll guess that Yoz is the more experienced track driver... i've seen this car waste a 450bhp Skyline, so I cant see an Evo being a problem... unless at the lights, but most roads that you are able to do that on will be more than a 1/4 mile, so the Evo's going to get it's arse well and truely handed to it.

as for strut braces dont bother, waste of time on a road car... good if you track it I suppose and like dents in your roof...

Bruntingthorpe consists of merely 2 very long straights and a few corners, ie; its a power circuit so you just need lots of it to be fast round there. A twistier circuit might be a different matter I'd say (ie Burntingthorpe is not the best example to compare).

 

[c__w]

Dont get involved in things you know nothing about. Here is an FQ300 with a 331bhp upgrade. Check out his qtr times -

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/411217

Thats half a second slower than mine with the same hp and 4WD + ive recorded the same 0-60 time as him as well - you lot are digging yourself a f**king hole now

Not really since he said "real world" driving which makes a link to 1/4 mile times irelevant.

 

[MATT BLACK]

ok then Mr C W - is a country road are a dual carriage way real world conditions ?? Line one up - im taking it you own one then ?? - what model is it ?? are or you just assuming this because you dont own either car - thats my guess !!!

And i dont race the car on public roads as its bloody stupid - if you want to race take it to a track - now when youve got a car that can compete come back and argue some more


lol - you own a pug 205 dont ya

 

[c__w]

ok then Mr C W - is a country road are a dual carriage way real world conditions ?? Line one up - im taking it you own one then ?? - what model is it ?? are or you just assuming this because you dont own either car - thats my guess !!!

And i dont race the car on public roads as its bloody stupid - if you want to race take it to a track - now when youve got a car that can compete come back and argue some more

I meant real world as in NOT 1/4 mile times. But since you said "I don't race on the public roads as its bloody stupid" it can't have been on a country road or dual carriage way either

Anyway, who's arguing, it's just a discussion!

 

[MATT BLACK]

Yeh fair do's mate

Ive had enough of this now - im sick of dick heads that have owned 1 fast car in there entire life that theyve bought in stock trim been to Halfords and bought some discs and pads and done a day at oulton park and think they are Tommi f**king Makinen.

If you can do a bit bring, your car to the Pod, York, oulton or donny and put it through its paces and lets see what you can do. Until that very day carry on playing with your play station in one hand and your c**k in the other.

Later

 

[JJ!]

Damn right there are better cars out there - thats what has given me the inspiration to build my car - i wont stop till i get in the 10's and hopefully be the 1st FWD car in the UK to achieve this.

Now what do you drive ?????

i dont remember bringing anything to do with what i drive in to it??

I was just saying there were faster evo's out there??

I cant afford neither and i will race you in my......

Girlfriends 1.2 16v corsa sleeper.........

in fact.......... its always asleep

 

[EVOgone]

what's more of a scally car? one with ridiculous wings and spoilers and fog lights bigger than the average mans head, or a completely bog standard
Clio? you know what a chav is? I don't think a chav would have a TT powered Clio, they would be antagonising passers by for bus fare change...

for the record Yoz couldn't keep up round Brunty... I don't know how good a driver Matt is, but I'll guess that Yoz is the more experienced track driver... i've seen this car waste a 450bhp Skyline, so I cant see an Evo being a problem... unless at the lights, but most roads that you are able to do that on will be more than a 1/4 mile, so the Evo's going to get it's arse well and truely handed to it.

as for strut braces dont bother, waste of time on a road car... good if you track it I suppose and like dents in your roof...

LOL .... EVO are in the 9s on qtr mile and round the track then would get wasted. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE STIG DRIVING IT ROUND THE TRACK WOULDNT BE HALF WAY UP THE LEADER BOARD.

As said previously the bhp is to make up for the lack a driver skill.


http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89100

 

[EVOgone]

Yeh fair do's mate

Ive had enough of this now - im sick of dick heads that have owned 1 fast car in there entire life that theyve bought in stock trim been to Halfords and bought some discs and pads and done a day at oulton park and think they are Tommi f**king Makinen.

If you can do a bit bring, your car to the Pod, York, oulton or donny and put it through its paces and lets see what you can do. Until that very day carry on playing with your play station in one hand and your c**k in the other.

Later

Put you dummy back in..... What does it mater what car you drive and what does it make a difference to how good a driver you are ??

Regards to owned fast cars then for me

17-205 GTI
18-CAV GSI Turbo
19-SAPP COSSIE
20-ESCORT COSSIE
21-SAPP COSSIE (lots of Andy Rouse touring car bits)
22-SAPP COSSIE / CLIO WILLIAMS / SAAB TURBO CONVERTABLE (all 3 fitted in the garage)
23-LEXUS IS200 (Company car) SAPPH COSSIE
25-BMW 325 SPORT (Company car) EVO 4
27-BMW 330d SPORT (Company car) EVO 6

Now A4 Sline TDI and the GF's cup, plus my Dads BDG Mk2 Escort (not in compentition as i was the co-driver)

People who want to challenge all the time just feel uncomfortable with there abilities and compensate with BHP.

MMmmm mince pie and cream.....

 

[EVOgone]

Yeh fair do's mate

Ive had enough of this now - im sick of dick heads that have owned 1 fast car in there entire life that theyve bought in stock trim been to Halfords and bought some discs and pads and done a day at oulton park and think they are Tommi f**king Makinen.

If you can do a bit bring, your car to the Pod, York, oulton or donny and put it through its paces and lets see what you can do. Until that very day carry on playing with your play station in one hand and your c**k in the other.

Later

What does it matter what car you drive im sure that your comment applies to most people on CS. It about enjoying yourself unlike yourself that seem to have gone down a very long road........

Not a very clever comment really......

 

[Floodie]

hi ya - im interested in buying an OMP strut brace for my Cup, are they any good?.. Thoughts please.

Thanks

 

[MATT BLACK]

whats just happened to my last post ?

 

[MATT BLACK]

Put you dummy back in..... What does it mater what car you drive and what does it make a difference to how good a driver you are ??

Regards to owned fast cars then for me

17-205 GTI
18-CAV GSI Turbo
19-SAPP COSSIE
20-ESCORT COSSIE
21-SAPP COSSIE (lots of Andy Rouse touring car bits)
22-SAPP COSSIE / CLIO WILLIAMS / SAAB TURBO CONVERTABLE (all 3 fitted in the garage)
23-LEXUS IS200 (Company car) SAPPH COSSIE
25-BMW 325 SPORT (Company car) EVO 4
27-BMW 330d SPORT (Company car) EVO 6

Now A4 Sline TDI and the GF's cup, plus my Dads BDG Mk2 Escort (not in compentition as i was the co-driver)

People who want to challenge all the time just feel uncomfortable with there abilities and compensate with BHP.

MMmmm mince pie and cream.....

A4 ?? A Cup and a MK2 escort ( daddies ) - you takin the piss?????????

Cant believe ive been arguin this out with you LOL

 

[EVOgone]

hi ya - im interested in buying an OMP strut brace for my Cup, are they any good?.. Thoughts please.

Thanks

PMSL.....

 

[EVOgone]

A4 ?? A Cup and a MK2 escort ( daddies ) - you takin the piss?????????

Cant believe ive been arguin this out with you LOL

Im not arguing just listing facts.....

As said if you can afford it or want to prove how fantastics you and your car are then go to the ring........

Until then put up or shut up.....enjoy your car......

Mmmm another mince pie....

For info it was (as it's sold now for 21k) a 2.4 millinton engined Mk2 Rallycar....Which for the record would have on a track / stage annialated the clio. But who cares, i dont......

 

[MATT BLACK]

LOL just found out you had some old EVO 6 2yrs ago - absolute class

This gets better

 

[c__w]

A 350bhp Clio should be pretty fast round the 'Ring as there are places where big power is needed especially the couple of uphill sections where its flat out for ages which is where my 205 struggled as it was so steep.

 

[EVOgone]

LOL just found out you had some old EVO 6 2yrs ago - absolute class

This gets better

I bought the Evo 6, 4/5 years ago so how does that work. I only got the 6 as the i didnt like the 7.

Do your sums.....

 

[MATT BLACK]

EVO 6

Drivetrain
Engine 4G63 Straight 4
Engine Location Front , transversely mounted
Displacement 1.997 liter / 121.9 cu in
Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed Fuel injection
Aspiration Turbo
Gearbox 5 speed Manual
Drive All wheel drive
Performance figures

Power 276 bhp / 206 KW @ 6500 rpm
Torque 380 Nm / 280 ft lbs @ 3000 rpm




lol I was running 336 bhp with 360 lbft last season and its only a 1.8 lol

 

[EVOgone]

A 350bhp Clio should be pretty fast round the 'Ring as there are places where big power is needed especially the couple of uphill sections where its flat out for ages which is where my 205 struggled as it was so steep.

On the straights maybe but im sure there are a few people on CS that would beat him round....

Remember road tyres +350hp clio.....anyways we are all waiting for him but keeps backing out.

 

[Fred@BTM]

j3ned uses A539's too!!

 

[EVOgone]

EVO 6

Drivetrain
Engine 4G63 Straight 4
Engine Location Front , transversely mounted
Displacement 1.997 liter / 121.9 cu in
Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed Fuel injection
Aspiration Turbo
Gearbox 5 speed Manual
Drive All wheel drive
Performance figures

Power 276 bhp / 206 KW @ 6500 rpm
Torque 380 Nm / 280 ft lbs @ 3000 rpm




lol I was running 336 bhp with 360 lbft last season and its only a 1.8 lol

Again assume assume....not knowing facts

Autronics ECU
HKS Hiper Exhaust
Magnex D/pipe
HKS Race Suction kit
Decat
Eibach suspension
PF discs and pads

360/370BHP and approx 330ft/lb torque.

It would probabley be as fast in a straight line and would certainly handle and brake better than your car round the track but again who cares. Oh and looks so much nicer........

 

[EVOgone]

j3ned uses A539's too!!

Whayhey your back...I pay to see that car on A539's round the ring......!

 

[Fred@BTM]

not back, just came out of retirment to post about the A539's!!!! LMAO

ciao!!

 

[MATT BLACK]

Fred you are a b**ch - you fit that reostat ?? did it work ??

On A048'S mate and Mickey T's on the strip. Sure would like to go up against you and Yoz in the Yoz mobile

Did you get the piston rings sorted in the F4R lump ??

 

[MATT BLACK]

Again assume assume....not knowing facts

Autronics ECU
HKS Hiper Exhaust
Magnex D/pipe
HKS Race Suction kit
Decat
Eibach suspension
PF discs and pads

360/370BHP and approx 330ft/lb torque.

It would probabley be as fast in a straight line and would certainly handle and brake better than your car round the track but again who cares. Oh and looks so much nicer........

Shame its gone - sure would like to Post this thread at the pod and then whoop your ass in front of the crowd. And it wasnt 370 bhp - stop telling lies lol

 

[EVOgone]

Shame its gone - sure would like to Post this thread at the pod and then whoop your ass in front of the crowd. And it wasnt 370 bhp - stop telling lies lol

I have to say your great, lets Jenson Button and Colin Mcrea etc in some std clios. You can blow them off in your car down the strip then you can say your the best driver in the world....

Send me 2 race of champions VIP tickets.....

360/370 was the 4 and the 6 was about 330...i know which car most people would have..

 

[MATT BLACK]

LOL - your tellin lies - have you got a RR print out ??

I will study it later with a Mr Kipling

 

[fizzy_drink]

http://fratguyantics.com/content/index.php?id=3907

 

[EVOgone]

LOL - your tellin lies - have you got a RR print out ??

I will study it later with a Mr Kipling

Didnt know i needed one sorry........

Very simple mods and if you knew about EVO's then you know thats the norm for the mods but hey you havent had the pleasure.........

I would send you the recepits but DL have all the documentation so to give them a ring.....

It's shame really as i have 3 GT rollerbearing Turbo in my office that are being used for developement....

Mmmmmmm oh well..

 

[EVOgone]

EVO 6

Drivetrain
Engine 4G63 Straight 4
Engine Location Front , transversely mounted
Displacement 1.997 liter / 121.9 cu in
Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed Fuel injection
Aspiration Turbo
Gearbox 5 speed Manual
Drive All wheel drive
Performance figures

Power 276 bhp / 206 KW @ 6500 rpm
Torque 380 Nm / 280 ft lbs @ 3000 rpm




lol I was running 336 bhp with 360 lbft last season and its only a 1.8 lol

Is your engine standard so why compare the two....