CSF2023?

[andybond]

Is there going to be one folks?

 

[Cads]

Was wondering about this the other day.
👍

 

[Adey.]

👍🏼

 

[Gavin.]

I hope so!

 

[Louis]

Rumour is @Tubbs Vice is arranging it. Pm him for details

 

[Nik]

We are looking at the possibility of some sort of event for this year, but nothing has been arranged at the moment.

I can however confirm that we will sadly not be returning to Blyton Park as a club. It's been kept quiet up to now but there will be questions as to why so I'm going to just vent a little bit to explain. 😂

As you know we have been going to Blyton for a number years and had a great relationship with the old site managers who left just before the pandemic.

Unfortunately this years show was somewhat overshadowed by how our event team, and some of you guys as customers were treated by several members of the Blyton staff. We spent the weekend trying to be polite and respectful to an unwelcoming, prejudicial and downright rude site manager, who had clearly decided before we arrived that we were going to be trouble makers, to quote "because we are a Clio club". This is partially the fault of the poor behaviour of another Clio group several years ago who will remain nameless but it doesn't take a genius. We have been running the same professional event year after year, with consistently well behaved members so this should not have been applied to us before we even arrived this year. The site manager was seen shouting rudely at some of you for apparently not understanding their misleading signage and we had numerous complaints.

We also had (not for the first time) many reports of rude treatment by the staff in the onsite cafe. We then experienced this first hand ourselves when the event team dared to ask to purchase some food to be ready whenever it was available. We ended up sending someone to Tesco for our lunch.... Sadly years of management understaffing the cafe for our event has lead to the overworked staff being rude too many times. They are always aware of the numbers and demand they can expect, so there is no excuse.

To top it all off, we returned exhausted from the weekend to an email from the new site management (who couldn't be bothered to attend to introduce themselves, and only have the word of their staff to go by) telling us that we disrespected their staff, were rude to the cafe staff, and left the site looking like a huge rubbish bin. We always clear up and generally leave the site cleaner than it was when we arrived. Fortunately we took photos and here is how we left the site:



We responded with our side of the story and these photos and while they agreed to put this to their staff members there was never an apology or retraction.

Sadly this means we aren't prepared to return, so will be looking for an alternative venue for future club events. Suggestions are more than welcome!

 

[SharpyClio]

We are looking at the possibility of some sort of event for this year, but nothing has been arranged at the moment.

I can however confirm that we will sadly not be returning to Blyton Park as a club. It's been kept quiet up to now but there will be questions as to why so I'm going to just vent a little bit to explain. 😂

As you know we have been going to Blyton for a number years and had a great relationship with the old site managers who left just before the pandemic.

Unfortunately this years show was somewhat overshadowed by how our event team, and some of you guys as customers were treated by several members of the Blyton staff. We spent the weekend trying to be polite and respectful to an unwelcoming, prejudicial and downright rude site manager, who had clearly decided before we arrived that we were going to be trouble makers, to quote "because we are a Clio club". This is partially the fault of the poor behaviour of another Clio group several years ago who will remain nameless but it doesn't take a genius. We have been running the same professional event year after year, with consistently well behaved members so this should not have been applied to us before we even arrived this year. The site manager was seen shouting rudely at some of you for apparently not understanding their misleading signage and we had numerous complaints.

We also had (not for the first time) many reports of rude treatment by the staff in the onsite cafe. We then experienced this first hand ourselves when the event team dared to ask to purchase some food to be ready whenever it was available. We ended up sending someone to Tesco for our lunch.... Sadly years of management understaffing the cafe for our event has lead to the overworked staff being rude too many times. They are always aware of the numbers and demand they can expect, so there is no excuse.

To top it all off, we returned exhausted from the weekend to an email from the new site management (who couldn't be bothered to attend to introduce themselves, and only have the word of their staff to go by) telling us that we disrespected their staff, were rude to the cafe staff, and left the site looking like a huge rubbish bin. We always clear up and generally leave the site cleaner than it was when we arrived. Fortunately we took photos and here is how we left the site:

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We responded with our side of the story and these photos and while they agreed to put this to their staff members there was never an apology or retraction.

Sadly this means we aren't prepared to return, so will be looking for an alternative venue for future club events. Suggestions are more than welcome!

Such a shame as it was really local for me, didn’t work out last year for me to attend but I’m aiming to make it this year whatever the plan is.

 

[Louis]

We are looking at the possibility of some sort of event for this year, but nothing has been arranged at the moment.

I can however confirm that we will sadly not be returning to Blyton Park as a club. It's been kept quiet up to now but there will be questions as to why so I'm going to just vent a little bit to explain. 😂

As you know we have been going to Blyton for a number years and had a great relationship with the old site managers who left just before the pandemic.

Unfortunately this years show was somewhat overshadowed by how our event team, and some of you guys as customers were treated by several members of the Blyton staff. We spent the weekend trying to be polite and respectful to an unwelcoming, prejudicial and downright rude site manager, who had clearly decided before we arrived that we were going to be trouble makers, to quote "because we are a Clio club". This is partially the fault of the poor behaviour of another Clio group several years ago who will remain nameless but it doesn't take a genius. We have been running the same professional event year after year, with consistently well behaved members so this should not have been applied to us before we even arrived this year. The site manager was seen shouting rudely at some of you for apparently not understanding their misleading signage and we had numerous complaints.

We also had (not for the first time) many reports of rude treatment by the staff in the onsite cafe. We then experienced this first hand ourselves when the event team dared to ask to purchase some food to be ready whenever it was available. We ended up sending someone to Tesco for our lunch.... Sadly years of management understaffing the cafe for our event has lead to the overworked staff being rude too many times. They are always aware of the numbers and demand they can expect, so there is no excuse.

To top it all off, we returned exhausted from the weekend to an email from the new site management (who couldn't be bothered to attend to introduce themselves, and only have the word of their staff to go by) telling us that we disrespected their staff, were rude to the cafe staff, and left the site looking like a huge rubbish bin. We always clear up and generally leave the site cleaner than it was when we arrived. Fortunately we took photos and here is how we left the site:

View attachment 1629955View attachment 1629956View attachment 1629957View attachment 1629958

We responded with our side of the story and these photos and while they agreed to put this to their staff members there was never an apology or retraction.

Sadly this means we aren't prepared to return, so will be looking for an alternative venue for future club events. Suggestions are more than welcome!

To be fair to the cafe, they had decent quantities of ketchup at csf22.

You really can't ask for more.

 

[Nik]

To be fair to the cafe, they had decent quantities of ketchup at csf22.

You really can't ask for more.

Not sure if ketchup or the blood of missing track drivers who dared to ask the lady for a baguette......

 

[Robbie Corbett]

Such a shame @Nik no way to make up with them?

Cafe staff were w*****s but tbh easy to laugh off - site manager being a prick is harder to swallow. Other than that Blyton is a perfect venue imo, you can camp, the marshals were very chilled - honestly had the best time there.

I did some googling last year and looks like Blyton will be hard to beat price wise - Curborough was cheap but its a sprint course really and too small I think.

Have you had any good location suggestions yet?

 

[MarkCup]

With plenty of notice I'm in wherever it is. I didn't get nearly enough 1-2-1 time with @Tubbs Vice last year.

 

[Robbie Corbett]

Not sure if ketchup or the blood of missing track drivers who dared to ask the lady for a baguette......

They were rude, but when I was chatting to them I think they were just as pissed with the management as they were with us.

 

[Clio_fool]

Ffs Kyle 🙄. Clean your rubbish up!

 

[Nik]

They were rude, but when I was chatting to them I think they were just as pissed with the management as they were with us.

Oh totally, we have had a nice relationship with the lady in the cafe over the years and we've long complained to management that she is overworked and understaffed. Unfortunately she was literally on the verge of a breakdown this year and it was quite uncomfortable to watch. I think in all likelihood she probably realised on the Monday morning and got in there with her version to management to cover herself from the inevitable complaint that was coming their way from us. Our members shouldn't be spoken to like that though, and management are clearly not going to do anything about it just for us.

 

[Bluebeard]

I’m at Castle Combe next month and I get on very well with some bloke that works there. I don’t even have to sign on or do the safety briefing, he just ticks the boxes for me! Lol)
I’ll speak to him as they are more than set up for the event and I know they’d have us. It’s just money depending because it’s b*****d expensive…
I also appreciate it’s a prick to get to for 90% of the club members.

 

[RustyMojo]

It’s a real shame as the venue was perfect…but understandable. What about a hill climb venue like Prescot? I know the Peugeot Sport owners club return year after year, they allow camping as I understand it. It must be dead hard to find locations nowadays. Absolutely gutted

 

[RustyMojo]

I’m at Castle Combe next month and I get on very well with some bloke that works there. I don’t even have to sign on or do the safety briefing, he just ticks the boxes for me! Lol)
I’ll speak to him as they are more than set up for the event and I know they’d have us. It’s just money depending because it’s b*****d expensive…
I also appreciate it’s a prick to get to for 90% of the club members.

It’s Not far for me Mate 😉…get those dealing boots on and get a deal going! 😉

 

[Stefan.]

Had a great time last year, would like to come again this year depending on where it is 🤞

 

[Robbie Corbett]

Honestly I don't care where it is - could be Anglesey and I'd still make the effort to come - I had such a good time last year and the thought of driving for many many hours for another weekend like that doesn't put me off in the slightest.

Castle Combe would be incredibly convenient though 😂

 

[Bluebeard]

Honestly I don't care where it is - could be Anglesey and I'd still make the effort to come - I had such a good time last year and the thought of driving for many many hours for another weekend like that doesn't put me off in the slightest.

Castle Combe would be incredibly convenient though 😂

I’m the same mate, I’ll go anywhere for a weekend of cars, anal sex and beer with you lot.

 

[hopgop1]

What a shame, I did think Blyton was pretty perfect, staff issues aside. I can't be alone in thinking I'd rather have CSF23 at Blyton again and deal with some staff issues than not have a CSF23 at all!
Is it a possibility to go back to the management, explain the grievances with last year and see if they're willing to work to improve things? Surely they don't want to lose our business over what seem to be relatively easy fixes.

 

[Krarl]

I made a point of taking that pic to show that we didn't make a mess and left it spotless because I know what people are like

I hope the site manager of Blyton gets gout in both thumbs and all of their toes and then ultimately crip walks into motorway traffic

 

[Flat Eric]

It is a shame as its been a solid venue for quite some time now.

As others have said, people will still come wherever it is. Only issue is the track day format works well which limits the options I guess.

I have faith the admin/events team will get something organised and it'll be a great event.

Date depending etc, we will try and make it but just depends on things with the pending newborn

 

[Mr Squashie]

Nurburgring. Job done.

 

[SharpyClio]

Nurburgring. Job done.

My car would defo end up on the back of a lorry there...

 

[Howell]

Pembrey Circuit, come to Wales guys.

We've got sheep, leeks and dragons

 

[Nik]

What a shame, I did think Blyton was pretty perfect, staff issues aside. I can't be alone in thinking I'd rather have CSF23 at Blyton again and deal with some staff issues than not have a CSF23 at all!
Is it a possibility to go back to the management, explain the grievances with last year and see if they're willing to work to improve things? Surely they don't want to lose our business over what seem to be relatively easy fixes.

They make very little out of us as they already sell the day to MOT trackdays. So its them that will lose out if they are unable to sell out our usual day.

The cafe is the main income they make from us directly and our feedback has never been acted upon.

They also have bigger plans for redevelopment so unfortunately I doubt we are important to them. If anything we are treated as an annoyance.

 

[MarkCup]

What about Llandow?

I know it's not particularly central, but it's a good cheeky little circuit, IIRC the cafe did great grub, and so long as we don't mind sharing with sheep I'm sure there's a field or two nearby for the campers.

 

[RustyMojo]

Are there any other clubs that have track days? Perhaps we could team up somewhere to reduce costs? Be mutually beneficial. Does anyone have any contacts? Must be similar sized owners clubs facing similar challenges. It would be a real shame if there wasn’t a face to face ‘meet’

 

[Robbie Corbett]

Are there any other clubs that have track days? Perhaps we could team up somewhere to reduce costs? Be mutually beneficial. Does anyone have any contacts? Must be similar sized owners clubs facing similar challenges. It would be a real shame if there wasn’t a face to face ‘meet’

Like the Vauxhall owner club, that would be a fun day watching them understeer round everything on fire

 

[Louis]

Are there any other clubs that have track days? Perhaps we could team up somewhere to reduce costs? Be mutually beneficial. Does anyone have any contacts? Must be similar sized owners clubs facing similar challenges. It would be a real shame if there wasn’t a face to face ‘meet’

Let's team up with CSOC

 

[RustyMojo]

Let's team up with CSOC

Ah ok, I always get confused here…there are two owners clubs? Well there is this one which is a proper club and another which is a FB page. Presuming the later is the one that’s caused all the problems??? Seem to remember there being a banner out for that one last year… but I can’t remember.

 

[Krarl]

Are there any other clubs that have track days? Perhaps we could team up somewhere to reduce costs? Be mutually beneficial. Does anyone have any contacts? Must be similar sized owners clubs facing similar challenges. It would be a real shame if there wasn’t a face to face ‘meet’

Zafira Owners Club

 

[Robbie Corbett]

Ah ok, I always get confused here…there are two owners clubs? Well there is this one which is a proper club and another which is a FB page. Presuming the later is the one that’s caused all the problems??? Seem to remember there being a banner out for that one last year… but I can’t remember.

Yes and when you walk up and say hi, I'm Touring_Rob who are you they all look at you like you're the worlds biggest c**t.

 

[Robbie Corbett]

Zafira Owners Club

I think they only do winter track days mate, or in the rain.

 

[Krarl]

I think they only do winter track days mate, or in the rain.

Is that to try and prevent fires?

 

[Nik]

Peel Owner's Club

www.peelownersclub.co.uk

 

[Krarl]

Peel Owner's Club

www.peelownersclub.co.uk

Probably quicker than a 197 on track

 

[dann2707]

Peel Owner's Club

www.peelownersclub.co.uk

There would be a whole load of pissed off clio owners getting out handled on track...

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Yes and when you walk up and say hi, I'm Touring_Rob who are you they all look at you like you're the worlds biggest c**t.

Because his name is or isn't Dave, I presume ?