Disc and Pads for Road use only

[Darryl_1983]

Hopefully picking up a 182 today, and its going to need new disc and pads before too much longer. I've got no intention of tracking the car in the immediate future, so just looking for a good disc and pad combination for road use. It will be my only car so used for commuting to work in, motorway journeys and a bit of fun at the weekends. So a good all round performer required.

I've used the search function, but most people asking for brakes seem to be looking for a track capable setup. I'm also not looking to spend a massive amount at this stage, but i am hoping to get something decent.....Though if it really will make a big difference i dont mind spending a little more.

I'm guess the brembo HC disc, but what pads?

I've seen the Pagid standard pads recommended (think by 519), and can pick these up from my local eurocarparts for about £50 front and back, Also the KTR pads are only £60 f&b, any of these any good?

I've seen G172 recommended so will also PM him regarding his prices etc, but wanted to get an idea of what i wanted before hand.

Thanks

 

[Scott H.]

Glad you had a search so atleast you won't get shot
I know alot of people run Brembo HC and ferodo 2500 inc myself and I don't track it that often (twice last year).

 

[Fletcher]

^^^i would run the same set up.

 

[Darryl_1983]

Yeah that setup does seem to be really popular, issue is the pads are £200 f&r thats a massive difference in price, are they really that much better, and worth the extra cost, especially when i'm not going to be taking it to track days.

I dont want to spend unnecessarily, but also don't want to skrimp on such a vital part of the car either.

 

[Fletcher]

Yeah that setup does seem to be really popular, issue is the pads are £200 f&r thats a massive difference in price, are they really that much better, and worth the extra cost, especially when i'm not going to be taking it to track days.

I dont want to spend unnecessarily, but also don't want to skrimp on such a vital part of the car either.

Just buy OEM pads and discs then?

 

[MWRS182]

I installed brembo hc discs and brembo pads pads fine for road use.

I think I got them from kam racing 58 quid plus delivery.

 

[MWRS182]

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/car-tuning/renault/renault-clio-mk2/brakes/brake-pads.html

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/car-tuning/renault/renault-clio-mk2/brakes/brake-discs.html

Delivery was about eight quid.

 

[Djw John]

Flol at DS2500 being recommended for road use only! Complete overkill. I've used motorfactor supplied mintex standard pads for years, great from cold, stood up fine on track apart from wearing quickly and an ideal all round pad. For just a few quid.

 

[Joe#]

I'd just get new standard ones, work perfectly well.

 

[Fletcher]

Flol at DS2500 being recommended for road use only! Complete overkill. I've used motorfactor supplied mintex standard pads for years, great from cold, stood up fine on track apart from wearing quickly and an ideal all round pad. For just a few quid.

I don't think they're overkill for a road car DS3000 or CL pads yes.

 

[Addicted]

Aren't DS2500 actually illegal for road use anyway?

I know it's such a small thing, and probably never checked, but that's what i recall!

 

[Nick172Cup]

Cheapest disks and pads going if you're just using it on the road. Even if you have a mad 5 minutes they'll hold up fine. Why waste £200 on brakes when you could get a £50-80 set that'll do the job just fine.

Unless the rears are completely worn, don't even bother changing them. They do nothing.

 

[Scott H.]

I think they say on the box "not for road use" but not sure if illegal. Can't recall reading that anywhere.

 

[Adam G]

Cheapest disks and pads going if you're just using it on the road. Even if you have a mad 5 minutes they'll hold up fine. Why waste £200 on brakes when you could get a £50-80 set that'll do the job just fine.

Unless the rears are completely worn, don't even bother changing them. They do nothing.

The sensible answer.

 

[Dan519]

Aren't DS2500 actually illegal for road use anyway?

I know it's such a small thing, and probably never checked, but that's what i recall!

yeah they're not E-marked. Same goes for a fair number of track pads.

Cheapest disks and pads going if you're just using it on the road. Even if you have a mad 5 minutes they'll hold up fine. Why waste £200 on brakes when you could get a £50-80 set that'll do the job just fine.

Unless the rears are completely worn, don't even bother changing them. They do nothing.

agree fully. Bobby J and Sash did Bedford on Pagid disks and pads that I fittted the night before and they never once saw fade. they're better than you'll ever need for the road and the whole setup is less than a set of uprated pads.

Rears only need replacing when the wheelbearings s**t themselves IMO, just make sure they're not seized on and you're laughing

 

[Darryl_1983]

Thanks for all the advise, I'll double check the rears, I know the front were close to being needed.

 

[imprezaworks]

Front brembo hc discs from g172 on here. Pads I would go for carbone Lorraine's over the ds2500 IMO.

 

[Adam G]

I'd read the thread again and save myself about £120 lol:rasp:

 

[Tigger]

My front setup (Brembo HC & DS2500's) have been on my car for almost 4 years, still going strong and both wear markers still visible! :approve:

 

[Tommo.]

I have just bought a 182 and it was in need of new discs/pads. I went for the Brembo HC discs and Brembo OEM pads all-round, supplied by G 172. I've also ordered new brake fluid, ATE Super Blue. Just short of £200 for the lot!

From the research I've done, these should be more than sufficient for road use. If you don't plan on going near a track, I doubt you'll see the benefit of the additional expense.

 

[plymcl172]

I wouldnt go for standard on the fronts imo get something a little better, really doesn't cost much more

And rears only change them if they are worn as they do nothing

 

[Tommo.]

I wouldnt go for standard on the fronts imo get something a little better, really doesn't cost much more

And rears only change them if they are worn as they do nothing

Brembo OEM front pads are £20/£25 vs something like DS2500 which are £100+

 

[sbridgey]

Why are all you people wasting so much money on pads you don't need? it seems stupid! Brembo HC's and Brembo OEM pads are perfect for road use.

 

[Matt e]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230929373...4.m1423.l2648&clk_rvr_id=456161627909&afsrc=1

 

[Adam G]

Why are all you people wasting so much money on pads you don't need? it seems stupid! Brembo HC's and Brembo OEM pads are perfect for road use.

Because CS kudos points are awarded for namedropping aren't they? Or is it just more money than sense?

 

[Djw John]

Because CS kudos points are awarded for namedropping aren't they? Or is it just more money than sense?

Bit of both. If you need DS2500 for road then something is wrong. Driven standard brakes for 5 years, only recently put DS2500 on (got them cheap) not all that and a bag of chips.

 

[Adam G]

Exactly, you need arresting if you feel OEM brakes don't cut it on the road.

 

[Darryl_1983]

Why are all you people wasting so much money on pads you don't need? it seems stupid! Brembo HC's and Brembo OEM pads are perfect for road use.

That's exactly what I went for, £74 delivered (very quickly too) from G172.
Will be fitting this weekend.

 

[Addicted]

If you need DS2500 for the road, you're going too fast or breaking too late

 

[daelo]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230929373...4.m1423.l2648&clk_rvr_id=456161627909&afsrc=1

Is that suitable for the ph2 rs2 clio? If so they seem a right bargain (don't know the cost of oem from renault) and mine could do with a refresh as theyve done well over 40,000 miles with me and countless more on the previous owners!

 

[mitch1503]

Is that suitable for the ph2 rs2 clio? If so they seem a right bargain (don't know the cost of oem from renault) and mine could do with a refresh as theyve done well over 40,000 miles with me and countless more on the previous owners!

yes they are suitable and also a very good set up for the money, have the same on my cup atm

 

[realnumber 1]

Why are all you people wasting so much money on pads you don't need? it seems stupid! Brembo HC's and Brembo OEM pads are perfect for road use.

I went from my 172 with standard pads/disks/hoses to my 182 with CL pads/Brembo HC's (I think) and braided hoses. It's transformed the stopping power and I wouldn't want to go back to standard now.

Yes the standard setup is more than fine for road use but what's wrong with improving on it? It doesn't just help with driving faster. Example being able to stop in a shorter distance if a kid ran out in front of you. Brakes are the next most important thing after good tyres imo.

 

[sbridgey]

I went from my 172 with standard pads/disks/hoses to my 182 with CL pads/Brembo HC's (I think) and braided hoses. It's transformed the stopping power and I wouldn't want to go back to standard now.

Yes the standard setup is more than fine for road use but what's wrong with improving on it? It doesn't just help with driving faster. Example being able to stop in a shorter distance if a kid ran out in front of you. Brakes are the next most important thing after good tyres imo.

So you are buying track/race brake pads just in case a kid runs out in front of you...

Brembo OEM pads provide more than enough braking performance for most situations and only cost about £30.

Clio brakes are very good as standard and will stop faster than the average car, spending £200 making them slightly better for that one occasion a kid runs out in front of you is daft, especially when you take into account reaction and braking times.

 

[Jeffie]

You could say the same about most mods really.

 

[realnumber 1]

So you are buying track/race brake pads just in case a kid runs out in front of you...

Brembo OEM pads provide more than enough braking performance for most situations and only cost about £30.

Clio brakes are very good as standard and will stop faster than the average car, spending £200 making them slightly better for that one occasion a kid runs out in front of you is daft, especially when you take into account reaction and braking times.

They came with the car tbh.

Your'e right OEM stuff is perfectly fine but it never hurts to have better if you want/can afford the premium. It's just the same as spending that bit extra for decent tyres over ditch finders which are still perfectly legal so must also be perfectly fine for most situations... If the upgrade cost £500+ to do then I'd agree with you but around £170 more isn't much really in the grand scheme of things.

The kid thing was just one example of where they could make a difference...

 

[imprezaworks]

I would allways pay more for decent brakes. They cover more options, road, track if tempted etc. I wouldn't go overkill with the likes of ds3000's etc though.

 

[sbridgey]

They came with the car tbh.

Your'e right OEM stuff is perfectly fine but it never hurts to have better if you want/can afford the premium. It's just the same as spending that bit extra for decent tyres over ditch finders which are still perfectly legal so must also be perfectly fine for most situations... If the upgrade cost £500+ to do then I'd agree with you but around £170 more isn't much really in the grand scheme of things.

The kid thing was just one example of where they could make a difference...

I completely agree, if you can justify the expense then why not, my point was more aimed at people who cant afford expensive brakes and just to inform them that they aren't needed.

 

[sbridgey]

I would allways pay more for decent brakes. They cover more options, road, track if tempted etc. I wouldn't go overkill with the likes of ds3000's etc though.

But you like to track your car and drive it pretty hard. The average CS member doesn't do that.

 

[imprezaworks]

I drive like miss daisy during the week lol

 

[mr.pink87]

OEM brake pads are better for road use than proper track/race pads as they don't need much heat to work properly.