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Discovered my 172 is an Import



  2007 MK5 VW Golf TDi
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

sneeks said:
The car indicators flashed when locking the car using the original plip key and there was no other fob to use so I assume this had armed the alarm and not merely locked the car?

Do you have microwave detectors on your A pillar? Also, mine has a flashing LED near the gearstick...
 

Waitey

ClioSport Club Member
  Alpina D3, AC Cobra
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Mine is an import too. No probs with it at all. Apart from me doing the engine mounts in on a weekly basis!
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

nezza said:
Do you have microwave detectors on your A pillar? Also, mine has a flashing LED near the gearstick...

Yes I'm sure it has these molded into the A pillar. I didn't notice if there was a flashing light near the gearstick.
 
  2007 MK5 VW Golf TDi
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Anyone got any pics of these "moulded" A Pillars as mine aren't moulded, they are like aftermarket detectors!!! Its definetly a Renault / Cobra alarm though...
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

nezza said:
Anyone got any pics of these "moulded" A Pillars as mine aren't moulded, they are like aftermarket detectors!!! Its definetly a Renault / Cobra alarm though...

Don't take my word for them having been moulded, I looked at a lot of cars last week and perhaps I've got mixed up.
 
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Sneeks I wasn't meaning you especially.

BTW, you bought the car yet? You're profile to the left says you've got a 172... Or is that just in anticipation? ;)
 
  2007 MK5 VW Golf TDi
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

It cost me about £350 fitted from Renault... Its well hidden as I can't find anything - not even the siren!!

I guess its the same as the standard UK spec alarm just fitted after manufacture! Its a Thatcham CAT 1 alarm which has to be fitted by the dealer I think. Do standards have an LED next to the gear stick?
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Ally said:
Sneeks I wasn't meaning you especially.

BTW, you bought the car yet? You're profile to the left says you've got a 172... Or is that just in anticipation? ;)

Ally, I figured you didn't mean me specifically but I thought I'd clarify myself anyway.

I've not technically bought the car yet, by 4pm Saturday I will have and should be driving around smiling lots :)
 
  X-172 Cup
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

LOL @ this thread,
Sneak - that car is a bargain @ £6350
If the log book says it's a UK car and there is no 'import marker' on the HPI then it's as good as a UK car and you won't have any problems selling it either.

What makes me laugh is that we are all getting a little agitated with the 'is mine an import or not? / are imports not as good as UK cars? but let's not forget: THEY ARE ALL RUDDY IMPORTED FROM FRANCE!!! LOL:rasp:

The only thing that would concern me was the apparent dishonesty/incompetence of the dealer not knowing whether it was a UK car, but for this my friend you can negotiate discount, a few hundred quid off/full tank of Optimax & 12 months tax etc etc. ;)...BTW
 
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Ally said:
WTF have people on here got against imports? It's the same car made in the same factory FFS... :mad:

I don't think anyone has anything at all against imports to be honest. The main issue is that if you are buying an import, you should know you are buying an import. Regardless of how much you think it should be worth compared to a UK 172, they usually are considerably cheaper (for reasons I admit I cannot explain)

Although this situation seems fairly genuine, people in the past have been "ripped off" before, thinking they have a full UK spec car but in fact have been supplied a Dutch import. The fact that compensation has been claimed by others proves that regardless of the fact they are basically the same car, they are not in the eyes of insurers (even though they don't charge you more) and potential future buyers.

If you know you are buying an import then great, save yourself a bit of money and get one, just confirm with Renault UK before you buy that if its less than 3yrs old that its valid for warranty work etc.
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

I'll be happy with it import or not and the price is incredibly good considering the car is in such great condition. I was annoyed that the dealer was unaware of the cars status more than anything else.
 
  Ziel Nurburgring
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Whats the miles on it? Maybe if its 24/36 you could ask them to throw in a free service. 36k is an expensive one.

Arent all the ultra sonic sensors wired into the A pillar with the black cube sticking out? Not aware of any moulding(as someone said, they look aftermarket)
 
  Ph1 172 / Ph1 Valver
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Yeah, my alarm's standard fit (although I think it was an option that's added in after). Black square microwave sensors on the A-pillars and an LED by the gear stick. Is it a cat1 alarm then? Mine had a sticker in the window saying the car was CAT2 but that could have just ben the immobiliser befor ethe alarm was fitted.
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

blink172 said:
Whats the miles on it? Maybe if its 24/36 you could ask them to throw in a free service. 36k is an expensive one.

Arent all the ultra sonic sensors wired into the A pillar with the black cube sticking out? Not aware of any moulding(as someone said, they look aftermarket)

Now you mention it that description does sound incredibly familiar......forget the moulded A pillar comment, I was obviously thinking of a different car :eek:

The car will be serviced and MOT'd for collection on Saturday
 
  RenaultSport clio 172 mk2
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

how do you find out its a import coz sneaks says on the hpi it didnt state if it was an import so how do you find out
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

I found out when I phoned Renault UK to check on the history of the car. They could only find details of it from the chassis number and not from the car reg. Phone 08000 723 372 and speak to customer services.
 
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Stokecitypottermouse: hence my use of inverted commas around 'UK' in my first post, lol ;)

The Renault dealer when I went for some warranty work recent;y couldn't find my car on their computer system when searching by reg - had to use VIN number as sneeks says above. The dealer also took a visible step backwards when they found out it was an import - certainly seemed reluctant to carry out the warranty work on an import!

When I come to sell mine on if anyone asks then I'll tell them it's an import - it's exactly the same spec now anyway, including the window etching. Either that or they'll visit www.cliosport.net and see me mouthing off about my car being an import, lol!
 
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

What I don't understand if a car is imported from Holland, then why is it right hand drive??? I've heard of cars being imported from ireland and cyprus, but that's fine as they drive on the same side of the road as us.
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Reg Vardy in Edinburgh. I notice Linwood Motors in Glasgow have a silver 172 02 plate for sale £6500 32k miles.
 
  1.6 Astra ... R.I.P. 182
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

yeah theyrs also a blue on at london road arnold clark for £7,500. 40k miles.
so looks like your getting a good deal
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Yeah I just noticed that one. My car has less mileage and cost me £1100 less than that :) Looks like the silver 172 and the cup are now sold as they are no longer listed.
 
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

"What I don't understand if a car is imported from Holland, then why is it right hand drive??? I've heard of cars being imported from ireland and cyprus, but that's fine as they drive on the same side of the road as us."

Don't quote me on this, but I think someone like Motorpoint will have a local agent in the country who will order up loads of cars but request them in right hand drive. The agent would then forward these onto the UK retailer who will sell them as imported cars.

There's nothing to stop you going into your local Renault dealer in the UK and ordering up a new Clio but requesting it in left hand drive!
 
  Turbo'd MX-5 MK4
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

sneeks said:
Yeah I just noticed that one. My car has less mileage and cost me £1100 less than that :) Looks like the silver 172 and the cup are now sold as they are no longer listed.

yeah, but what you've got to remember is that the 36k service will cost you around £360 min.
 
  E90
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

it was the rage a while back to go to holland buy it from a dealer and pay the import tax in the uk, cos it worked out cheaper. but uk prices are so low now there no need. Mine is a 2003 mk 2, nothing different about it to a uk spec one, if u have specific things you'd like me to check let me know, i'll go outside for a look.
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

R20GRC said:
yeah, but what you've got to remember is that the 36k service will cost you around £360 min.

The dealer I'm buying from have already performed the 36k service for me prior to collecting the car as it was the next service due.
 

al

  ST on the way...
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

IIRC The early Mk2 172 Imports don't have a trip computer.
 
  Ziel Nurburgring
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

sneeks said:
The dealer I'm buying from have already performed the 36k service for me prior to collecting the car as it was the next service due.

Ask them for the service sheet as its not as simple as Oil and filters. This one is a belt as well i believe *goes to check Edde's thread*
 
  The Tube
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

almarsden said:
IIRC The early Mk2 172 Imports don't have a trip computer.

They do have trip computers. Only Alarm, window etching and wheel-nuts differ.
 
  Ziel Nurburgring
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

36K Service

Change oil
Change oil filter
Change air filter (The 1.2 8V, 1.4 16V and 1.6 16V only need to be done at the 36k service)
Change passenger compartment filter (if appropriate)
Check bodywork for rust etc (this is part of the Renault anticorrosion check)
Check brakes for wear, failing seals, fluid level (the reservoir on the 172/182 is at the back of the engine on the drivers’ side on the bulkhead. You need to remove the engine cover if fitted to see if often as it is in an annoying place)
Check power steering
Check exhaust
Check condition of the rubber gaiters on the steering rack
Check the coolant level (big tank attached to the back of the engine bay on the passenger’s side of the car. Top up etc as appropriate so the level is between the minimum and maximum. Make sure you do this when the engines coolant is cold as the system is highly pressurised (1.2 bar and hot) so it can hurt you if you try removing the cap when it’s hot. Also fluid level changed when it’s hot.
Front and rear windscreen wiper check. Condition etc.
Tyres check for uneven wear and pressures (spare should be also check).
Check front and rear shock absorbers are correctly fixed no leaks etc.
Check bulbs work (brakes/indicators etc)
Check battery charge state.
Check all windows/mirrors for cracks etc.
Computer check of any errors logged in the ECU etc.
Spark plugs changed.
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

I can confirm it has an alarm but I'll need to check for myself on Saturday for locking wheelnuts and window etching. I'll ask on the phone today if the service was to 36k spec or not.
 
  E90
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Macca172 said:
They do have trip computers. Only Alarm, window etching and wheel-nuts differ.
Yup trip computer it has, windows i'm not so sure about i think mine are etched and its a early 2003, wheel nuts are none locking, but need a 3 pin key to get the bolts for the centre cap off, if that helps at all.
 
  Turbo'd MX-5 MK4
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

yep, timing\auxil belt should have been done. that's where the extra £££ comes in.
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Ok blink so no belts require changing during that service? How come they charge so much for it then?
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

According to Edde's thread the belts do not need replaced until the 72k service.

Macca I'm sure the car will be fine, apparently the 172 mentioned earlier in this thread for £7500 is a mess. A friend has just viewed it.

The dealer is just off of the phone. He swears that the car was built for the UK market and was not adapted for it at a later time. I've been told it entered the UK through a Dutch distributor to a Renault dealership where it was 1st registered. DVLA and HPI report it as a non import.
 

al

  ST on the way...
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

Macca172 said:
They do have trip computers. Only Alarm, window etching and wheel-nuts differ.

My mate has a 2002 52 Reg 172 Import (Netherlands is think) and it has no Trip Computer.
 
  Citroen DS3 DSport
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

I didn't notice during the test drive if the car had a trip computer or not. The digital display showed the mileage of the car but I don't know if it was capable of displaying anything else.
 

al

  ST on the way...
Re: Discovered my 172 is a Import

If it doesn't have trip computer the screen will show mileage since last reset at the top and cars total mileage at the bottom all the time.
 


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