Does the Clio mk3 tce share the same gearbox with the Twingo GT?

[Jamie Riley]

I’m putting my clio tce through its paces pretty soon. Pushing for power with new turbo, injectors etc. I know I’m going to be needing a new, uprated clutch to deal with the new ‘neck breaking’ power. I have only been able to find a clutch for the Twingo GT and knowing they have the same engines I’m wondering if anyone can share light onto if they have the same gearbox.
Cheers in advance

 

[Adey.]

both jh3 series gearboxes yes. 200mm clutch 26 spine and 7mm thick if I remember correctly.

 

[Jamie Riley]

both jh3 series gearboxes yes. 200mm clutch 26 spine and 7mm thick if I remember correctly.

Thanks very much mate that’s great

 

[Jamie Riley]

both jh3 series gearboxes yes. 200mm clutch 26 spine and 7mm thick if I remember correctly.

Actually, seen as you have what I assume is a Twingo gt on your profile. Would you know where (if you got one) I could find a higher performance clutch? Cheers mate

 

[Adey.]

only found one and it was a silly price. I'm on a stock clutch still...... but I think a Volvo 1.7 turbo one will fit and is good for over 200lbft

 

[Jamie Riley]

Wouldn’t have expected that, do you know the year/model/fuel Volvo or does it not matter?

 

[Adey.]

it's a Renault engine. its not defo but all the measurements show itd be close. well the friction plate anyway. Volvo 440 1.7 turbo 200mm clutch. they do a 215mm but that wont fit for sure

 

[Jamie Riley]

Okay well either way cheers mate. Seen as you’re a wealth of knowledge on these engines do you know anything of high lift cams?

 

[Adey.]

cat cams were apparently looking into doing one. might be worth a call.

 

[Jamie Riley]

cat cams were apparently looking into doing one. might be worth a call.

Lovely, cheers again

 

[Adey.]

good to see a few more pushing the little engines. they arnt really supported but are cracking engines with a few bolt ons and a proper remap

 

[Jamie Riley]

Yeah it seems so, I’ve heard many good things but seen a lot of people talking down on them.

This Clio is my first car you see, and with a trade in value of no more than £1800 I just want to keep it and turn it into a quick but quirky fast road/road rally car should be great fun!

 

[Adey.]

if i were you id go with exhaust, air filter 172 inectors and a remap. see how you go from there. Them bits are of little outlay. Clutch when needed then bigger turbo, then maybe a cam if you find the stock one causing you issues. I expect you will find the limits of the rods before needing a cam though.

 

[Martin_172]

same gearbox but the ratios appear to be different the twingos seem a chunk shorter, only reason I found out was when I had the tuned twingo GT and my mate had a tuned clio TCE, we were trying to do side by side rolling starts but couldn't find a gear to start in as both cars were at completely different revs!

 

[Jamie Riley]

Ch

same gearbox but the ratios appear to be different the twingos seem a chunk shorter, only reason I found out was when I had the tuned twingo GT and my mate had a tuned clio TCE, we were trying to do side by side rolling starts but couldn't find a gear to start in as both cars were at completely different revs!

Cheers mate, interesting... I wonder how or if this would effect the wear of the clutch :/

 

[Martin_172]

Wouldn't really, in theory I suppose longer gearing is harder for the engine to turn so more chance of it spending prolonged time lower down in the torque band which can wear the clutch

 

[Adey.]

Twingo has a JH3169 and the clio a JH3186, here are the ratios vs each other. Twingo is listed with my higher rev limit of 100rpm though. Both based on running 195/50/15s

Twingo

Clio

 

[samh522]

it's a Renault engine. its not defo but all the measurements show itd be close. well the friction plate anyway. Volvo 440 1.7 turbo 200mm clutch. they do a 215mm but that wont fit for sure

Hi Adey, if you can remember, you think the Volvo disk and plate would fit? Or the Volvo disk with the Renault plate?