Does the cup really redline at 8000rpm

[Klang1.6]

just seems a lot really. the brochere said it does , its difficult to look at the dials, wen ur gripin the wheel to keep hold lol.

 

[Roamer]

Erm, in a word...... no

7250 unless its chipped/ecu changed.

 

[Lee]

As Roamer says, they do with an R-Sport ECU.

 

[Klang1.6]

how come the book says it can? i didnt think it did!

 

[Roamer]

Erm does it really????? in what book? the "instruction manual"?

 

[Klang1.6]

it was like a 4 page leaflet i picked up ages ago from a renault garage

 

[Tom]

Oh that thing. i wouldnt worry about that.

Its full of sh*t "cup upgrades" lol my arse

 

[Lee]

I take it thats the one which promises roll cages etc etc?

 

[TheCake]

Yeah i agree about the upgrades. Looked into them myself only for the dealer to tell me they werent available retro-fit. And... they werent available even with a new car... so the point of the is???

 

[Dash]

Well they did supply the upgrades in the end. Ok so they had to bring out a whole new car LOL

 

[Rich-D]

As standard a Cup (or 172) will rev to 7250rpm in 1st, 2nd & 3rd and 7000rpm in 4th & 5th if fully warmed up, if not its restricted to 6500rpm.

With an R-Sport ECU it will rev to ~7800rpm

 

[blink172]

What RPM does the shift (Change before i expire) light comeon then? DOes it mean you have a few more revs you can squeek out of of it?

 

[blink172]

Sorry for the very poor english in that last post!

 

[KDF]

think its about 250rpm before limiter.

 

[Chris n nic]

The light just comes on b4 the limiter so yes it comes on higher up now.

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by blink172 on 09 December 2003

What RPM does the shift (Change before i expire) light comeon then? DOes it mean you have a few more revs you can squeek out of of it?

Just before the limiter... so youve got more to go...

 

[pennga]

dunno where you read that mate, the brochure on the cup i have says peak power is 172bhp at 6250rpm, peak torque is 200NM at 5400rpm

 

[Klang1.6]

it says the cups rev limiter has been raised to a more usful 8000rpm, thats what it says

 

[pennga]

must be a different brochure mate, mine sure oesnt say that. Knowing in renault there is probably a few releases of the one brochure

 

[Frosty]

Quote: Originally posted by blink172 on 09 December 2003

What RPM does the shift (Change before i expire) light comeon then? DOes it mean you have a few more revs you can squeek out of of it?

With the R-Sport ECU the light comes on about 100 revs before the limiter intrudes. In second gear there is about 0.2 seconds between the light coming on and the redline being hit.

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by Klang1.6 on 09 December 2003

it says the cups rev limiter has been raised to a more usful 8000rpm, thats what it says

Not in the Cup brochure I have...

The rev counter may well read up to 8000rpm, but it definately does not rev that high, even with the R-Sport ECU fitted!!!

 

[viceroy]

Quote: Originally posted by Rich-D on 09 December 2003


As standard a Cup (or 172) will rev to 7250rpm in 1st, 2nd & 3rd and 7000rpm in 4th & 5th if fully warmed up, if not its restricted to 6500rpm.

With an R-Sport ECU it will rev to ~7800rpm

Is there actually a point to being able to rev that high? surely youre not making much power at those revs?

 

[iPap]

Quote: Originally posted by Frosty on 09 December 2003

Quote: Originally posted by blink172 on 09 December 2003

What RPM does the shift (Change before i expire) light comeon then? DOes it mean you have a few more revs you can squeek out of of it?

With the R-Sport ECU the light comes on about 100 revs before the limiter intrudes. In second gear there is about 0.2 seconds between the light coming on and the redline being hit.

So its not an optimum change point light, just a warning?!?!? Sounds like a waste of time to me!

 

[Klang1.6]

Quote: Originally posted by Klang1.6 on 09 December 2003

it says the cups rev limiter has been raised to a more usful 8000rpm, thats what it says

sorry guys i stand corrected it wastnt the brocher it was GTi magazine sorry.

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by viceroy on 10 December 2003

With an R-Sport ECU it will rev to ~7800rpm

Is there actually a point to being able to rev that high? surely youre not making much power at those revs?

Yeah, when chrs n nics R-Sportd Cup was on the rollers a couple of weeks ago it was still making good power all the way to 7800rpm!!!

Got the graph at home...