Does this look faulty?

[Mr Plums]

Today i decided to fit my 20mm wheel spacers i purchased off DAN@MAD via ebay as he doesnt seem to be trading on here any more.

Well the 1st one went on fine, i torqued the 1st bolt up to 105nm which all went well, when i came to the 2nd one, i was torquing the 1st bolt up and i heard a loud click, so i undid it and i was revealed with this...

The thread has snapped off in one whole piece!

Im not sure how this has happened but i used a torque wrench which was set to 105nm.

I have emailed dan via ebay and pm'd him about it so i will see what he says, but do you think i should be sent a replacement?

If it was my money i wouldnt be as bothered, but my other half bought it for me for a xmas present and i feel a bit s**t for her tbh as she didnt want to buy me anything for the car and now this has happened.

I went for these because i thought they were top quality ones, they wernt a cheap set either.

Thoughts.

 

[Dan@SJM]

That's been over torqued IMO. Especially if it's only the one. What torque wrench was it? When was it last calibrated?

 

[Matt e]

that's not good. the bolt has just ripped the thread from spacer.

would have thought there'd just send a new one out to you

 

[Mr Plums]

That's been over torqued IMO. Especially if it's only the one.

It was set to 105nm on every one, i heard a loud click sound before it was tight tho, why are all the others ok?

I thought the torque was 105nm for clio's?

 

[Alastair.]

You will probably need to prove your torque wrench has been calibrated to make a decent claim, ours at work get done every 6 months.

 

[Mr Plums]

That's been over torqued IMO. Especially if it's only the one. What torque wrench was it? When was it last calibrated?

Its a blue point one and its only about 5 months old so it hasnt been calibrated yet, how often should they be done?

 

[leeds_182]

Serves you right for opening it before Xmas

 

[Dan@SJM]

Mines done every 6 months, do you keep it set or loosen it each use?

 

[leeds_182]

You will probably need to prove your torque wrench has been calibrated to make a decent claim, ours at work get done every 6 months.

Or the retailer good go by the customer is always right and send out a replacement in good will?

 

[Mr Plums]

Serves you right for opening it before Xmas

Haha cheers Jim

Would it be safe to run with three bolts until i hear off dan@mad?

Or would you remove them? The other bolt actually still goes in but it doesnt nip up tight enough obviously.

 

[Snake182]

As a mechanic i would play it safe and remove the spacers and refit the wheels with all four bolts . Just think of it like this, a wheel bolt missing is an MOT fail, meaning its unsafe.

 

[Mr Plums]

As a mechanic i would play it safe and remove the spacers and refit the wheels with all four bolts . Just think of it like this, a wheel bolt missing is an MOT fail, meaning its unsafe.

Thanks for the heads up mate

Mines done every 6 months, do you keep it set or loosen it each use?

I put it back every time which i think is correct.

 

[Bobby.]

Not good mate.

 

[Mr Plums]

Not good mate.

I know mate, would you say these threads have been ripped off far too easily?

Im unsure i even want a replacement tbh, im a bit worried what could happen!

 

[Bobby.]

I would say so yes. I know Renault spec the toque setting to about 110nm but a spacer should be able to hold more than that as a safety precaution. Other wise everyone would be ripping threads.

I would still use another spacer provided by dan though, as long as it doesn't happen again.

Let's no forget loads of people are using dans spacers on track cars and giving them abuse without problems.

 

[Mr Plums]

If i got four bolts that are 20mm longer than the originals, could i bolt the spacer straight to the hub with the longer bolts? Rather than bolting the spacer to the hub?

Or could i get it re threaded and use a thicker bolt?

Or are these a silly ideas?

 

[Feates172]

Could just get studs and slide them over.

 

[Bobby.]

The longer bolt idea is bad because it puts stress on the bolts doing it that way.

And theirs no need to go down the bigger bolt route.

the spacer you've got is the best design so stick with that. If your put off from the ones from Dan you could get ones with steel inserts, they have stronger threads that way, I think its ebaich who make them ones.

 

[AlexW]

One other thing, did you check the bolt lengh? too long and it could have hit the hub, and thus fucked it that way.

But if all the bolts are the same lengh, its unlikely, but worth a shot. Hopefully dan will sort it!

 

[Mr Plums]

One other thing, did you check the bolt lengh? too long and it could have hit the hub, and thus f**ked it that way.

But if all the bolts are the same lengh, its unlikely, but worth a shot. Hopefully dan will sort it!

All the bolts are exactly the same length mate, they are only a few month old, brand new with my ultras.

Thanks again, i hope he sorts it too, i could have bought some £10 ones but i didnt want problems.

 

[Mr Plums]

Another small thing too, i ordered two sets of spacers, 20mm and 5mm ones, i got emails the same day saying that both sets had been posted out on the 17th dec at 2:03pm, great the day i ordered.

So with them both been posted 1st class on the same day at the same time just as my emails stated, i thought i would receive them both at the same time.

I received my 20mm ones yesterday but not my 5mm ones, which wasnt a concern as its very busy this time of year etc.

So i emailed them yesterday to ask where my 5mm spacers were as i ordered them the same time as my 20mm ones, just to make sure they hadnt forgot, and they replied "They were sent slightly later than the 20mm's but should be with you Monday at the latest".

Even tho i had an email saying that they had posted them at the same time and the same day.

Im a picky c**t sometimes.

 

[Tony Hunter]

Are you sure the wheel bolt hasn't bottomed out, I mean hitting the hub, that could rip the thread out like that.

 

[Mr Plums]

Are you sure the wheel bolt hasn't bottomed out, I mean hitting the hub, that could rip the thread out like that.

All the wheel bolts are the same size mate, so it should have done it with all the others surely if that was the case?

Are these really safe enough to run?

 

[Tony Hunter]

Had the spacer been drilled all the way through?

You never know, one might not be. Just trying to think of all the possibilities.

 

[Mr Plums]

Had the spacer been drilled all the way through?

You never know, one might not be. Just trying to think of all the possibilities.

Im not sure mate tbh, i just bolted it to the hub, i didnt check that, its a possibility i suppose.

Its really just s**t itself like shredded wheat tbh, im really worried about putting them on at all now mate.

 

[mad in general]

Would it be a good idea to torque them up to say 80ish alternating between them then give them a final torque up to 105?

I don't know if this is the case but maybe if you have put one bolt in, torqued it up then put another one in and torqued that up, the wheel may not have been evenly set on the spacer???

I'm just guessing here, not suggesting you've done anything wrong.

 

[Mr Plums]

Would it be a good idea to torque them up to say 80ish alternating between them then give them a final torque up to 105?

I don't know if this is the case but maybe if you have put one bolt in, torqued it up then put another one in and torqued that up, the wheel may not have been evenly set on the spacer???

I'm just guessing here, not suggesting you've done anything wrong.

I didnt use the torque wrench until i was nipping them up, i used my ratchet until they were all hand tight.

I go round all the bolts evenly before i tighten one up to 105nm and leave the others slack obviously.

 

[mad in general]

I didnt use the torque wrench until i was nipping them up, i used my ratchet until they were all hand tight.

I go round all the bolts evenly before i tighten one up to 105nm and leave the others slack obviously.

Fair enough, was just having a stab in the dark.

Fingers crossed for you mate, hopefully you get a replacement and make sure you don't take any risks.

 

[Mr Plums]

Fair enough, was just having a stab in the dark.

Fingers crossed for you mate, hopefully you get a replacement and make sure you don't take any risks.

Thanks mate, hopefully ill get a replacement

 

[ben lee]

did the bolt do up easily by hand/ratchet? could of it been cross threaded? they are alloy so a lot easier to strip the threads.

 

[Mr Plums]

did the bolt do up easily by hand/ratchet? could of it been cross threaded? they are alloy so a lot easier to strip the threads.

It just went in the same tbh mate, i didnt notice anything different unti i was nipping it up.

 

[ben lee]

stick the wheel bolts through your alloy wheel and measure how much visible thread sticks out to check the bolts are not to long.

 

[Mr Plums]

stick the wheel bolts through your alloy wheel and measure how much visible thread sticks out to check the bolts are not to long.

Will do tomorrow mate thanks