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ECU SUPERCHARGER HELP
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Trafic 140dci
I guess mine ain't the most powerful 1*2 in Norfolk now 
lol come to a meet sometime.
Also another vote for the EC1R, i dont have one yet, but will do soon... cheap too!
lol come to a meet sometime.Also another vote for the EC1R, i dont have one yet, but will do soon... cheap too!
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The K-Tec Gen90 is a plug and play replacement (no wiring changes necessary) for the standard ECU and will do everything you want.
I cannot see why you would want to use anything else, especially if it involves adding a second ECU which cannot do everything the car requires, needs wiring changes and must therefore retain the standard ECU.
If you don't mind adding in a second ECU, and as you're from Norfolk, why don't you go and see Specialist Components. Their ECU looks very familiar! http://www.twinkam.co.uk/shop/page/7
I cannot see why you would want to use anything else, especially if it involves adding a second ECU which cannot do everything the car requires, needs wiring changes and must therefore retain the standard ECU.
If you don't mind adding in a second ECU, and as you're from Norfolk, why don't you go and see Specialist Components. Their ECU looks very familiar! http://www.twinkam.co.uk/shop/page/7
Trafic 140dci
Maybe if there is no traffic... Closer to 5+ cromer to Leeds is a chore! I know this lol.
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
You sure there isn't something wrong withthe car to cause the bad idle?
Rusty Cup
Could be cammed?
172 Race Car
Yes it looks familiar. But so do all loaves of bread they sell at Tescos
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
Who did it belong to before?
the car was on pistionheads for sale and ebay a few weeks back last owners name was dean (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/superchar...8087905?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a7270a461)
if anyone knows the car and can tell me some history on it, id be greatfull...
if anyone knows the car and can tell me some history on it, id be greatfull...
you won't meet or talk with anyone who knows more about this than James, so don't even attempt it.
Literally a genius with this stuff, beyond what anyone else on here could even comprehend
182, SQ7, Trafic
I'm not attempting that at all though.
I'm just stating that everyone's harping on about it being Plug & Play when it quite clearly isn't.
It will still need to be mapped before he can drive with that ECU on.
The applications list for the EC stuff and what Matt does is a lot more substantial than some Clio's with Turbos/ITB's etc.
I think I'll stick with the EC1, I've ran Omex and it was pony in comparison.
I'm just stating that everyone's harping on about it being Plug & Play when it quite clearly isn't.
It will still need to be mapped before he can drive with that ECU on.
The applications list for the EC stuff and what Matt does is a lot more substantial than some Clio's with Turbos/ITB's etc.
I think I'll stick with the EC1, I've ran Omex and it was pony in comparison.
197
Think you're exaggerating just slightly? The round trip is under 500 miles, and as for £300 in petrol?!:lolup:
Didn't realise Tesco value was actually Hovis, just with the name changed over. I'm sure Tesco will claim the motorsport heritage of their bread however, and everyone will be bowled over by that!
I read in your build thread how after installing the steering wheel mounted dash, it took several hours for TDF to try and diagnose why it wasn't working. I am sure myself, and anyone else who works in the automotive / motorsport industry were falling off their seats laughing at this! Anyone who works with CAN should have been able to diagnose this in 15 mins or less (especially as there are only two nodes on your CAN bus!). I'll happily provide a step by step guide if required.
The fact that it has to be mapped is somewhat irrelevant to the discussion, as any ECU the OP installs will have to be mapped. With the Gen90 he only has to unplug the standard ECU, and plug this one in! No matter what way you look at it, that's simpler than having to hack about the standard loom!
330i. E30 Touring.
THIS!
RSTuning
ClioSport Club Member
R35 GTR
You need to pick the company you are going to use to map the car and then ask them the question "which ecu do you prefer to work with". Too many people make the mistake of buying an ECU then finding a tuner.
We can do either but prefer to work with the EC1...
We can do either but prefer to work with the EC1...
182, SQ7, Trafic
Not exaggerating, he would definitely have to go back. Meaning my figures are correct.
I'm only talking about the fact that it's wording it as if you don't need to map it. Plug and play means that! It is in no way plug and play. Just because it has the same connector as a Renault ECU doesn't make it plug and play.
My injectors have the same plug as my standard ones, but can't just plug it in.
So what if the looms are spliced into each other, 99% of cars get broken for bits anyway!
Also who "built" the Gen90?
I'm only talking about the fact that it's wording it as if you don't need to map it. Plug and play means that! It is in no way plug and play. Just because it has the same connector as a Renault ECU doesn't make it plug and play.
My injectors have the same plug as my standard ones, but can't just plug it in.
So what if the looms are spliced into each other, 99% of cars get broken for bits anyway!
Also who "built" the Gen90?
172 Race Car
No need to be a pRick about it James. Maybe if I'd added the wink the post would of made more sense about it. And as for your comment about the time taken to sort the dash out there is no way you can know what happened just by what I wrote. My blog/thread is worded so the average joe can follow the goings on with our car. Notr a totally minuite by minuite account with all the details. Sounds like you have a grudge/chip/axe to grind for some reason. So therfore I'm out
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
Back on track...... Fair play for buying it, I think it looks a super car and bet it flys! I'm surprised this is still running standard Ecu tbh, well the man has spoken (Paul @ RS) so I suggest you give him a call and discuss options.
197
If you know who "built" the Gen90, feel free to say; no-one's stopping you.
So let me get this straight; you're saying that you didn't put a wink in the post, so it didn't make complete sense, and because I mis-interpreted this, I'm a prick? What fantastic logic you have!
To quote from your thread:
Jay Payne said:
As you have said that your thread was written for the average joe, I'll happily elaborate for you on my logic, based on what you have written.
As you have said, wiring up two devices via CAN involves four wires for each device; power, ground CAN H and CAN L.
A CAN bus is two wires (not fibre optic or anything like that, just regular wire), which require 120 ohm termination at each end (either in the harness, or in the nodes at each end of the bus), giving you a resistance of 60 ohms across CAN H and CAN L. That's all there is to a high speed CAN bus.
To put two nodes onto the CAN bus, you literally just connect them up to the CAN H and CAN L connections, make sure the nodes are powered and running, and off you go.
If you have a CAN bus where nodes are not functioning, you do the following: check there is continuity on both CAN lines, check the correct bus resistance is present, put a CAN analyser onto the network (anyone who works in the automotive field and works on CAN will have CANalyzer or CANoe from Vector) and see if the relevant CAN messages are present (you will already know what messages you are expecting from the different nodes), if there is nothing on the bus, remove one node and see if the other is responding, and then vice versa. If both nodes are present on the CAN bus and transmitting messages, then you've set up the IDs incorrectly within the units, and they're looking for the messages on the wrong IDs.
So from your thread post you've said the four wires were there, which means all that had to happen is the above diagnostic steps to find the fault, which as I've said before, is a 15 minute task, not hours, for someone who has automotive experience!
No axe to grind here. I have nothing against TDF and wish them every success, but I am not going to join the group of TDF fan boys on Cliosport who get excited any time something "motorsport" is shown to them. There seems to be a misconception that because something is "motorsport" this instantly makes it better than something designed for a road car. The reality is that designing parts for OEM automotive use is much, much harder than designing for motorsport use, which is something people don't appreciate.
It also seems that a lot of people on here are more than happy to bash K-Tec and other companies, but should someone come on with a different view of TDF, then they just get criticised!
And back on topic; to the OP, it seems as though you have quite a range of ECUs to choose from!
182, SQ7, Trafic
Please get off your high horse James, it was a genuine question.
I used the "built" as technically it isn't built but it is. I genuinely don't know who came up with the ideas of the Gen90.
There isn't really any bandwagon but I think every customer of TDF I've heard from have been happy, myself included. Matt has excellent business morals for us non-motorsport applications and doesn't try and rip people off, unlike some of the last tenants of that building.
I'm not getting wet over the fact they are a Motorsport company, Jay isn't either but he has a right to considering his is a Motorsport application. I like the fact Matt has a good following, has turned out a lot of great work including OEM stuff for other cars.
I don't see car manufacturers calling up K-Tec asking for their engine control (I may be wrong but let's be serious here).
I used the "built" as technically it isn't built but it is. I genuinely don't know who came up with the ideas of the Gen90.
There isn't really any bandwagon but I think every customer of TDF I've heard from have been happy, myself included. Matt has excellent business morals for us non-motorsport applications and doesn't try and rip people off, unlike some of the last tenants of that building.
I'm not getting wet over the fact they are a Motorsport company, Jay isn't either but he has a right to considering his is a Motorsport application. I like the fact Matt has a good following, has turned out a lot of great work including OEM stuff for other cars.
I don't see car manufacturers calling up K-Tec asking for their engine control (I may be wrong but let's be serious here).
in answer to the price question no i didnt pay anywere near 9k .. it was just over 7k but it did need new boots and ive still gotta put a full set of pads and new rear discs on ... on the ecu note id love to go to RS but there just to dam far as for tdf there only just down the rd from my mums wich is handy so i will be ringing them tomoz to find out what they can do for the car, i got a dyno printout from RS for 335bhp would it be possible to get more as the rotrex charger is suppost to be good for 400bhp ...
Golf GTD Mk7
Forged lump, uprated head you will see 400. Paul's ran that iirc. Wasn't the healthiest though. Would bother maxing it out by the way.
Another vote for Ec1 here
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