I got a problem with my car today aswel, i came to junction went to stop and went to go but my car died, i tryed starting it again and nothing happened, its like the immobiliser is constantly on or earthed out i have a mk1 ph1 1.4 RT (k reg) the start motor and battery are both fine its turning over just not firing! any help?
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Re: Urgent help needed!!!
f**k SAKE, why is it that everyone helps everyone else but every thread ive posted no one has even had the decency to say im sorry buddy i dont know? Im always trying to help out everyone on here it just seems like the favour never gets returned!!!
f**k SAKE, why is it that everyone helps everyone else but every thread ive posted no one has even had the decency to say im sorry buddy i dont know? Im always trying to help out everyone on here it just seems like the favour never gets returned!!!
Mercedes AMG GLE 53
Re: Urgent help needed!!!
Have you checked the cambelt?
Have you checked the cambelt?
172 Cup
Re: Urgent help needed!!!
Mate don't take this the wrong way but A, Having "Urgent help needed" as a topic title isn't exactly the best topic title to attract mechanical help and B, Why not gove people more than 10 minutes to answer? Have you considered it's nearly 9pm and alot of people may be watching TV etc..?
That's not meant as criticism just trying to help you get a decent response.
ClioDaN87 said:
Mate don't take this the wrong way but A, Having "Urgent help needed" as a topic title isn't exactly the best topic title to attract mechanical help and B, Why not gove people more than 10 minutes to answer? Have you considered it's nearly 9pm and alot of people may be watching TV etc..?
That's not meant as criticism just trying to help you get a decent response.
Mercedes AMG GLE 53
Woh Woh Woh, calm down. Chill out and let peeps come up with suggestions then we might be able to help you.
Re: Urgent help needed!!!
Just bump a thread up and someone will notice it who know the answer.
Expecting an answer this quick (15 minutes) seems a bit unrealistic or have I got something wrong?
I've asnwered your question though I think earlier check your fuses for the fuel pump.
Somtimes the people who know the answers don't notice the posts were only human.ClioDaN87 said:
Just bump a thread up and someone will notice it who know the answer.
Expecting an answer this quick (15 minutes) seems a bit unrealistic or have I got something wrong?
I've asnwered your question though I think earlier check your fuses for the fuel pump.
The fuel pump is working you hear it kick in, if you turn on the immobiliser and turn the key nothing no fuel pump noise or nothing, turn off the immobilser and try the key you hear the fuel pump kick in when ignition is on turn the key and starter motor turning over but no fire in the cylinder, havent checked sparks because it should still fire up on 2-3 cylinders ive been informed that the actual key which the immobilser works off might have had it and cause the immobilder to be constantly on in a way!? but i dont know
Check if you get a spark might be a loose wire in the ignition system.ClioDaN87 said:
Is the starter motor actually turning the engine as they arn't that good if it isn't turing the engine anyway the ignition won't fire. Have u tried bump starting it that would explain if its a starter motor issue.
Clio 1.6 16v Dynamique +
When you say it 'cut out', did the car lose power and then die, or did it die just as you pulled up? Has it got a seperate condensor or is it built into the alternator? It could well be a fault on the immobiliser, but seems unlikely. It could be a dodgy lead or plug and wont necessarily fire and start on 3 cyclinders (depends on firing order usually). Could also be a faulty ignition coil, you need to be able to test whether you have a spark or not. I can't really think of anything else it could be right at this moment.
the shitty immob has nothing to do with this, it acts solely on the fuel pump relay, using another key won't make a difference either, car doesn't care if its a key or a screwdriver smacked into the barrel.
Also the crap about the thing going on 2 or 3 cylinders, it doesn't have coil packs does it?
No thats right a coil and dizzy.
First remove the injectors power feed as its already flooded enough.
When you turn the ignition on does the tacho needle jump slightly? Does it move when cranking? if not then it could be the module or the CAS or TDC sensor as you lot like to call it although it doesn't actually detect TDC.
Get a multi meter on the crank sensors plug, you wan 230 - 270 ish ohms, if its open circuit then its fooked bang another in there.
Pull the coil lead off the dizzy, stick an old or a new plug into it and rest on the cam cover, crank it over, I very much doubt theres a spark. if there is though is it a bright blue one that gives off a 'crack' noise, if its yellow or sounds weak then we go to the...
ignition module, the coil is held to the module by 2 T20 screws, the coil pulls off, its connected to the module by wiper contacts which corrode, if they are corroded they can eventually arc and then no spark, clean them up as they will be corroded to some extent.
Done that and still no spark go get another module or swap with one from another car and plug it in see if it sparks then.
Also make sure the rotor arm or dizzy isn't cracked as it will then just track to earth.
When you get it sparking crank it over witht he throttle floored it will splutter a few times, when it stops spluttering then all the fuels out, plug the injector back in and fire it up.
Also the crap about the thing going on 2 or 3 cylinders, it doesn't have coil packs does it?
No thats right a coil and dizzy.
First remove the injectors power feed as its already flooded enough.
When you turn the ignition on does the tacho needle jump slightly? Does it move when cranking? if not then it could be the module or the CAS or TDC sensor as you lot like to call it although it doesn't actually detect TDC.
Get a multi meter on the crank sensors plug, you wan 230 - 270 ish ohms, if its open circuit then its fooked bang another in there.
Pull the coil lead off the dizzy, stick an old or a new plug into it and rest on the cam cover, crank it over, I very much doubt theres a spark. if there is though is it a bright blue one that gives off a 'crack' noise, if its yellow or sounds weak then we go to the...
ignition module, the coil is held to the module by 2 T20 screws, the coil pulls off, its connected to the module by wiper contacts which corrode, if they are corroded they can eventually arc and then no spark, clean them up as they will be corroded to some extent.
Done that and still no spark go get another module or swap with one from another car and plug it in see if it sparks then.
Also make sure the rotor arm or dizzy isn't cracked as it will then just track to earth.
When you get it sparking crank it over witht he throttle floored it will splutter a few times, when it stops spluttering then all the fuels out, plug the injector back in and fire it up.
Ph1 172
Try taking both the battery terminals off and cleaning them up, especially the earth where it connects to the shell. Sometimes, if your earth is touching but not quite earthing properly it will turn over but not start. The fact it cut out when you stopped at a junction sounds like it could be that too especially if it was an eratic stop. Slamming on might have just loosed that connection enough to make it cut out. Has it ever cut out when going round a corner or anything like that? Try it anyway it will only take you 10 mins, if not I'd call an auto electrician out to it.
Cheers for the info,time and effort into your reply Chris H, its very much appreciated. I havent checked to see if there is a definate spark from the coil lead, however i have replaced the coil today and still have this problem it wasnt an eractic stop i just stoped like i usually do! but the junction was on a bend, i am going to check the condition of the dizzy and rotary arm as soon as possible as my car is currently the other side of town and i have no transport there and back! thanks once again
Dan
Dan
Black Twingo GT
Ignition Amplifier? It'll turn and turn but never fire if its gone.
Also they tend to die in traffic etc and not go again.
Dan
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Also they tend to die in traffic etc and not go again.
Dan
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