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Engine techie question.....



Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
What's the relationship between the number of cylinders and CCs? Why do some manufacturers make a small V6 - like the 1.8 found in the MX3 and others make large 4-pots like the 3.0litre in the Porsche 968?

Would it be likely that Reno would have ever considered a 3.0litre, 4-cyl in the V6, rather than the erm..... V6?! :)

D.
 
There is no direct relationship, its entirely upto what the manufacturer is aiming for.

Most cars now are classed in engine size, which affects target market and insurance ratings/tax/registration, so the have capacities groups to play into.

No point having a 2ltr v8 in a production car as the costs will be high as will complexity, but ultimately it has the capability of producing more power due to more total valve area available.

And the bore/stroke relationship (square, over or under square design) affects (along with torque relationship from rod/stroke ratios) if its going to be a high revving high bhp bike engine, low revving high torque tractor engine etc.

Renault wouldnt of considred it because there is no 3ltr 4 cylinder available, and the v6 was a marketing excercise which they used all parts that are already available. If you look under a V6 you can actually see where they cut the bottom/back out and drove a laguna V6 into the space.

large capacity individual cylinders make the physical dimentions of the engine large aswell, and installing a tall engine affects the handling and centre of gravity and overall vehicle styline etc etc etc.
 
  172 ph1 ASBO SLAYER
v engines are usually nice compact units, and are usefull where space is a consideration. but that only really conserns certain applications
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
Thanks for the responses, Ben, & Ben (!) and I fully take on board what you're saying regarding target market etc. But taking my example from before, why would Porsche opt to make the 968 a 4-pot if a V6, flat-6 or V8 has more power potential? It's not like money is an object to Porsche - and in all honesty, 4-pots are pretty rattly and noisy anyway.

D.
 
  172 ph1 ASBO SLAYER
who knows what goes thru designers minds! but if they make it work well, i for one don't question it! point of intersest a straight 6 is the most balenced engine. most commercials (my area) are straight 6's and v's are only usually employed where space is of a premium. although scania are playin with 5 pots to try and attain ero 4 or 5, i can never remember where we are to! i've not seen the 968 lump so i can't really comment on it, but they must have had their reasons
 
yea, they are balanced to a 120 deg pattern....BUT, the cranks are so long that torsional vibration is horrible and they twist alot, hence no super power ones are around, they cant deal with massive torque (before you bring in commercial, they follow diff rules ;) ) lol.

Technically a 4 pot can handle the most torque as it has the largest main bearing area per cylinder, and short cranks dont twist.
 

Boz

  Arctic 182
The 4 cylinder 968 engine is half of a 928 V8 engine bored out a bit with a balancer shaft, i.e. it is existing hardware modified rather than a new engine from scratch.
 


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