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ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Shame the mini looks so toy-town, made every bit I hate about the old one worse.
106 GTi
Thread about this from last week kicking about somewhere.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=175881
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=175881
Share your sentiments there mate. Maybe (hopefully) it looks better in the metal. Makes the old one look better IMO
Have any of you guys read the article yet?
What do you think?
They seem to be saying that the new car isn't as exciting to drive as the older versions, perhaps a step backwards.
Think their basically saying its not as exciting or involving to drive, but is a step up in overall ability. Sounds like its more well behaved
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
I've read it and i'm not a bit surprised, iirc the last Renault Sport Clio EVO tested was the Clio Trophy,[And we all know how much evo love them] so the 197 had alot to do to really impress them.
I'd still take the 197 over the Mini copper s though, but imo they are both overpriced.
I'd still take the 197 over the Mini copper s though, but imo they are both overpriced.
Turbos.
The problem is people are comparing the 197 to the likes of the Trophy, a special edition aimed at a particular type of person. The 197 is in fact the new 172, which was aimed at a much wider audience.
I think we need to be a little more patient and wait for the more focused variants, then rip Jeremy Townsend to shreds
I think we need to be a little more patient and wait for the more focused variants, then rip Jeremy Townsend to shreds
As opposed to the 197 being for non-trendy rich kids? Since they both cost the same.
b****cks. The new mini has always been a fashion accessory for many people. Nothing to do with price
To some it is. But to a lot of people it's also a great car and a fantastic drive with bags of character which is why its currently EVO's pick of hot hatches and I don't think they're that interested in fashion.
MINI JCW
Agree totally and thats why I think the MINI has been such a success, me and the missus have a Cooper S and a 182. The Cooper S appeals to so many different people its a fashion accessory to some but its also a cracking car to drive.
I like the fact that Evo have chosen the Mini over the 197, as I was starting to think that they were unnaturally biased towards the RS range.
Haven't read it fully, but I think they've highlighted the fact that it's more 'grown up' and that's taken the raw edge away.
Haven't read it fully, but I think they've highlighted the fact that it's more 'grown up' and that's taken the raw edge away.
That old chestnut^^^^
Why is it so hard to believe that RS clios are simply better than their rivals in terms of driving thrills? Which is what Evo is all about.
I'm not just banging the drum for clios cos I've got one. It just seems strange to question their judgement when they are the ones who test all the cars. Seems more likely than a pro-clio bias.
