f4r base map

[spinky]

Does anyone have a base map for a N/A or turbo f4r engine that i could take a look at?

using a f4r in my kit car project with a standalone and might try mapping it myself to keep me occupied while i have a broken collar bone!!!

if anyone has anything can you please e-mail it to me on steve 1 y 2 k 'AT' hotmail dot com (no spaces)
cheers,

Steve

 

[spinky]

anyone??

 

[Gt rob]

if no ones got anything for you here try "trophy.net"

 

[spinky]

mmm, that website isn't working for me!! coming up with adverts haha.

 

[Gt rob]

my bad, try this

http://cliotrophy.co.uk/

 

[theduck]

Off topic but what kit are you putting the f4r in? Have you got a build diary anywhere?

 

[spinky]

No build diary unfortunatly! i've pm'd you.

 

[sideways danny]

would need to know what ECU you're using to come up with anything

 

[spinky]

danny, call me cheap, and as a tuner you probably hate it...but it's a megasquirt, i'm happy to copy all the values from an omex or dta map across though!
i'm waiting for a pectel to come off a mate, so this is really more of a 'piss about' project.

 

[sideways danny]

I have a startup file for a 182 turbo for an omex 600 I think. Buried in my emails somewhere. And yes, I f**king Hate MS

 

[spinky]

Haha, thought you would!
that'll be ideal! can i nick a copy please if i pm you my e-mail addy?
I've never been keen on MS either, but for £50 for a ms2extra it was worth a shout! just waiting for the sq6 to come up..that'll be a sweet ecu!

 

[scotty2hotty81]

speak to paul at rs tuning, it wont come for free though, sorry but i would bin ms.

 

[Gt rob]

whats wrong with MS? OMEX any better?

 

[spinky]

MS is a little bodgey to put it simply. It'd be fine if you we're tuning a lawnmower! but for a car it's a bit fragile and cheap.

 

[sideways danny]

Have you seen the canems ECU that I sell. Got it on a number of mk1's now, including one with an F4R in it, and got good results for a much more sensible cost than some ECU's. Not a high end product, but ideal for engine conversions and kit cars. much better than emerald for example, which is NASTY to map

 

[Gt rob]

what are the advantages of having standalone ecu to remapping std one?

 

[sideways danny]

the biggest thing that immediately becomes apparent when you use any decent standalone, is map tracing, and live updating. You can always see exactly what part of the map you are at, immediately. With the standard ECU, you're relying on data logging, and "best guess" trial and error techniques, and you have to make a load of changes, upload the map again, then see what effect the changes have made. Slow process

 

[spinky]

That looks quite neat Danny!
If I wasn't getting the pectel I'd consider getting one of these!
might get an air temp sense off you tho!

 

[Gt rob]

they hard/ expensive to fit and map? would i be able to map them at home?

 

[Fred@BTM]

no you can't map it at home, well you could but it wouldn't last long!

 

[scotty2hotty81]

Tick tick tick tick........ Boom

 

[sideways danny]

they hard/ expensive to fit and map? would i be able to map them at home?

not hard particularly. Needs doing on a dyno by someone experienced for best results. Road mapping is a bit crap, but it can get a car drivable in the short term

 

[Fred@BTM]

have a look at the stuff form TDF, in short its a pectel in a different box, TDF's owner matt basically is the gaffer when it comes to pectel (worked for Pi/cosworth/pectel for a long time), he now has his own ecu's which are bloody brilliant and easily 1/2 the price of pectel