Fiesta ST to Clio 182?

[Gaz_]

Recaros are worth it if your a badge wh0re like me. I had them fitted to my 172 Cup, and kept them for my 182. When i changed back to standrards to sell, they were like night and day tbh.... standard seats are higher still, and offer no real support. I'll dig out a pic of side by side comparison.....

 

[ForceIndia]

I agree, they are better. Just not £800 better, especially given you could get a better seat brand new for the same (or less) cost.

 

[JoedotwasT5phy]

I agree, they are better. Just not £800 better, especially given you could get a better seat brand new for the same (or less) cost.

+1, totally agree. Looks wise there are good. Performace wise there are far better seats

 

[Gaz_]

Here we go

You can clearly see the extra depth of the Recaro (the drivers seat was adjusted as low as possible). Fro me they were worth the money, as they can be sold on at a later date. They cost me about £200 for two years use. How much is a Viper £250?!

 

[ForceIndia]

Regardless of cost, the driving position is still poor. 10mm is not enough of a difference.

 

[Gaz_]

Not just seating position in the MK2 for me though. Lack of steering adjustment, massive wheel, offset pedals, gear stick too far forward.........the whole design is pretty flawed?

 

[Steve]

Ah the joys of the runt ehhhh

 

[Gaz_]

knows

 

[ForceIndia]

Not just seating position in the MK2 for me though. Lack of steering adjustment, massive wheel, offset pedals, gear stick too far forward.........the whole design is pretty flawed?

No doubt!

 

[tyers]

Would I be better with a Civic Type R than a Clio. I though you guys would be praising the Clio like s**t but half of you only say bad things lol - the build quality is putting me off but id love one to mod - perhaps a low mileage 172 cup would be best?

 

[Aluco]

Would I be better with a Civic Type R than a Clio. I though you guys would be praising the Clio like s**t but half of you only say bad things lol - the build quality is putting me off but id love one to mod - perhaps a low mileage 172 cup would be best?

Nope just being honest, all cars have there bad points.

 

[DanFreemanPhoto]

I looked at a type r, but one thing that put me off is they are more expensive in every way...insure, tax, running costs etc
And they look boring!

 

[Aluco]

Insurance wouldn't even quote me on a Type R

 

[Bigsy]

182 is much better than an ST, in looks and performance.

 

[ForceIndia]

Insurance wouldn't even quote me on a Type R

Thats because you're a tuna licker. More than likely that you're young, and Honda repair bills are very high.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Thats because you're a tuna licker. More than likely that you're young, and Honda repair bills are very high.

No worse than Renault, and that is factual:S

 

[Goodj]

Any of the Mk.2 Clio's will make a Fiesta ST look feeble.
If you want something with moderate comfort, dont bother with anything 'cup' related, although the spoiler pack for 182's is worth a look.....oh, and those recaros are smart, but do they then mean any rear-passngers need to have amputations?

 

[Gaz_]

Trust me, test drive a 172 cup warm it up, then take it past 5k. They feel brutal. I still miss mine. The 182's feel to have less 'go' in them (i've had both) They both will pull a good few lengths on Fiesta ST's.

 

[Craig.D]

Not devistatingly, contrary to what the world beaters on here will tell you, once rolling there nout in it

Danny i had a wee race with a Fiesta ST500 with that kit and i pull on him top end no bother.....just like it pulls on yours TBH!! :rasp:

Buy the way i'm selling mine in 2 weeks

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Danny i had a wee race with a Fiesta ST500 with that kit and i pull on him top end no bother.....just like it pulls on yours TBH!! :rasp:

Buy the way i'm selling mine in 2 weeks

Modified much Mr Dolan ?

 

[Dave-Clio]

yes get the clio.

the st should have always had 183bhp from factory - it was well underpowered from a 2ltr. so i wouldnt pay 1500 out of principle to get a car still not up to a 182's ability (IMO)

 

[tyers]

Some good feedback. Perhaps its best to go for a 172 then mod it with the rest of the money to how I like it. Is there much difference between the 172 and 182? I prefer the 172 cup than standard 172.

 

[Craig.D]

Look at Ecka's cup open to offers now.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=415481

 

[chris_p]

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1113718.htm My 172 cup is for sale now too. Check it out.

172 cup is quicker than a 182 too

 

[Craig.D]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

LOL! @ 45mpg does ur granny drive it FFS!!!

 

[tyers]

That first 1 is sexy and the second looks mint.

Im abit unsure as to what to do

 

[clio_luke]

But arent Fiesta STs meant to be a bit sloppy in the bends compared to the Clios?

yes they are. feel heavy and clumsy round bends.

 

[MonkeyKnifeFight]

Im abit unsure as to what to do

Buy a 182 ive had mine a year (no problems with it so far) and i love it as much now as i did the first time i drove it, ive been slowly modding it bit by bit, i like modding this way as you can feel the difference each mod brings.

For the money i wouldnt look at too many other cars but thats just me i love clios, dont like mini's not a massive fan of the last couple of type r's however the ek9 civic type r has to be one of my all time fav's but its getting a bit long in the tooth now.

 

[tyers]

I was thinking. Type R = too old wth high milage for my price range. Clio - poor quality build and tacky interior, not as reliable. I cant really knock the ST, its an all rounder car I think just abit slow.

Might sell my ST and buy one in white. Im always like this, too undecisive. Im just woried if I go for another ST I may regret not getting a Clio (again).

 

[Craig.D]

Buy a ST then the first time you come up against a clio u will feel :dead:

 

[clio_luke]

197 cup an option? better build quality. good fun factor. great round bends/stopping. just as fast in a straight line as a 1*2. faster than an st in any situation and way cooler imo.

 

[chris_p]

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LOL! @ 45mpg does ur granny drive it FFS!!!

No, me.

Keep it at a steady 65-70mph on a long run and it's easily do-able.

Then again, you wouldn't know about lightweight with your pretend cup

 

[Ryster]

LOL @ everyone saying the Mountune 185 upgrade isnt worth it, and even bigger LOL at the guy who thinks his Clio pulls on a Mountuned one at "higher speeds".
Quoted firgure for a Cliosport 0-100mph is 17.9 in a Mountune 185 St 0-100mph is 15.5. It also brings the torque upto the same as the Clio.

The 185 kit makes a huge difference to the car, it turns it into what it should have been when it came from the factory.

Also, an ST round corners is a great handling car. Infact if you lot have a read around you will notice that the cornering from standard the ST is mentioned in the same breath as a Cliosport.

Mountune 165 is crap, makes it a bit more pokey with a bit more low down grunt.

Mountune 185 is immense. Keeps side by side with Cliosports with ease. The noise the new exhaust, manifold and cams make is well worth the price.


Final thing, before people start saying "well if you modded a Clio", dont bother. People were saying the Mountune is crap. Its not.

I almost chose to buy a Cliosport but i never, i preferred the look of the Fiesta. Some people on here seem to think that the Clio is the quickest car out there, The same people also seem to think its the only car that can take corners at speed - Its not. The Clio is quicker than a standard ST, by an awefully long way, But then again i know what i would rather be seen in

 

[TwisTz]

The Clio is quicker than a standard ST, by an awefully long way, But then again i know what i would rather be seen in

Exactly. The Clio.

No one wants to be caught driving a Ford.

 

[Helsy]

This was the question I was asking myself last year...

I opted for the 182, this was down to the overall cost.

A 182 was far cheaper than a ST, but the insurance on the ST was cheaper then the 182. I had always wanted a 182 and the overall cost (tax, insurance, car) was cheaper for the Clio so I was happy

 

[Aluco]

LOL @ everyone saying the Mountune 185 upgrade isnt worth it, and even bigger LOL at the guy who thinks his Clio pulls on a Mountuned one at "higher speeds".
Quoted firgure for a Cliosport 0-100mph is 17.9 in a Mountune 185 St 0-100mph is 15.5. It also brings the torque upto the same as the Clio.

The 185 kit makes a huge difference to the car, it turns it into what it should have been when it came from the factory.

Also, an ST round corners is a great handling car. Infact if you lot have a read around you will notice that the cornering from standard the ST is mentioned in the same breath as a Cliosport.

Mountune 165 is crap, makes it a bit more pokey with a bit more low down grunt.

Mountune 185 is immense. Keeps side by side with Cliosports with ease. The noise the new exhaust, manifold and cams make is well worth the price.


Final thing, before people start saying "well if you modded a Clio", dont bother. People were saying the Mountune is crap. Its not.

I almost chose to buy a Cliosport but i never, i preferred the look of the Fiesta. Some people on here seem to think that the Clio is the quickest car out there, The same people also seem to think its the only car that can take corners at speed - Its not. The Clio is quicker than a standard ST, by an awefully long way, But then again i know what i would rather be seen in

Yeah but there s**t.

People knock the crappy plastic dash in the clio but the fiesta ST
FLOL @ the bright blue plastic !

 

[Tav]

If you bought cams, exhaust, remaps, recaros and coilovers for a Clio, as in the Mountune complete package you'd have something pretty special.

 

[Ryster]

Exactly. The Clio.

No one wants to be caught driving a Ford.

Get a grip mate, you drive a Clio and I drive a Fiesta - both of them are hardly man cars are they. Infact if mine didnt have an ST badge on the back and yours didnt have Cliosport all over it, both of us would be raging poofters.

Yeah but there s**t.

People knock the crappy plastic dash in the clio but the fiesta ST
FLOL @ the bright blue plastic !

Hahahah yeah FLOL @ the bright blue RUBBER which is an option in the ST that you can change for Black, Red or Blue.

If you bought cams, exhaust, remaps, recaros and coilovers for a Clio, as in the Mountune complete package you'd have something pretty special.

And you obviously missed the point where I was defending the rant against the Mountune package, when somebody called it s**te. I was mearly saying it wasnt. Secondly, i completely agree with you, all that in a Clio and it would be a beast.



One of the first things i noticed on here when i joined looking to buy a Cliosport last year was how much you lot get offended by other cars, if its slower, like the ST, then they are simply s**te.
If its quicker than your Cliosport its ok because "i wil catch dem in da twistie stuff innit".
The Clio standard is quicker than the ST, but not everybodys reason for buying a car is down to pure speed. I just wish that some of you lot would just for once admit that cars like the ST are actually good cars.
They are certainly no worse put together than a Clio, and they certainly are just as reliable as the Clio so whats the problem?

 

[clio_luke]

my mates standard st seemed gutless to drive and heavy through corners. im not just saying it because i own one, but i would much much rather have a 182. everytime.

 

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