Fitting new MSA wire tow loops

[Goddy]

has anyone done this to recommended standard yet e.g 2 x front and rear with M10 bolt or higher

I’m not sure if I’m just being thick, but really struggling to get my head around how I’m going to properly secure them and can’t find much advice online

Any advice / examples?

Matt

 

[Tom Johnson]

 

[Behemoth]

I'm no expert, but any pull on those wires other than directly front and perpendicular is going to wrench the bumper off. So the hard mounting point needs to be as forward as possible.
They look a little "retractable" with the tape/lanyard so they can pulled out. I would wire lock the shackle bolts.

 

[Tom Johnson]

I'm no expert, but any pull on those wires other than directly front and perpendicular is going to wrench the bumper off. So the hard mounting point needs to be as forward as possible.
They look a little "retractable" with the tape/lanyard so they can pulled out. I would wire lock the shackle bolts.

In that last picture they are held back by a small cable tie other wise they stick right out the front and look crap. If needed just pull to break the the cable ties and they come forward

 

[Goddy]

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Thanks that looks very tidy!

 

[Chambers_RS]

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That’s looks epic. Did you make that?

 

[scotiamr2t]

Never mind the mounting if the wire tow eyes. What’s going on with that rest of the front end?

 

[Tom Johnson]

That’s looks epic. Did you make that?

Yes pal, just a little job inbetween making roll cages :blush:

 

[Goddy]

Yes pal, just a little job inbetween making roll cages :blush:

Tom did you weld the eyelets in or bolted onto the chassis - also looks like that’s a custom plate you’ve attached it to is that right?

Was hoping it would be a slightly less involved job!

Matt

 

[Tom Johnson]

Tom did you weld the eyelets in or bolted onto the chassis - also looks like that’s a custom plate you’ve attached it to is that right?

Was hoping it would be a slightly less involved job!

Matt

Yes Matt it's all a custom front end to aid cooling.

 

[AdamCup]

What's that bar doing at the bottom under the subframe ??

 

[NorthloopCup]

What's that bar doing at the bottom under the subframe ??

That's a bladed anti roll bar mate.

 

[Goddy]

Right so done some research tonight and ordered m16 80 HT lifting eyes, 12mm shackles, 3x50x50mm steel plates and m16 nuts / washers.

Also got the bumper off this morning and identified where I’m going to fix them to (similar position to Tom but obviously without the custom plate to bolt into)

Will update how I get on when everything turns up... better work as set me back 70 quid inc. postage!!

Matt

 

[Sonic Boom]

That's a bladed anti roll bar mate.

I don't suppose that is an off the shelf part?
Rich

 

[NorthloopCup]

I don't suppose that is an off the shelf part?
Rich

No mate. Custom custom custom!

 

[Sonic Boom]

Ye thought as much lol
Do you know where you buy the parts from to create one thou?
Rich

 

[NorthloopCup]

Ye thought as much lol
Do you know where you buy the parts from to create one thou?
Rich

The bar and the mounts are a piece of piss to make tbh. Bit of cds tubing etc, but it's the blades that are the issue.

 

[Tom Johnson]

Ye thought as much lol
Do you know where you buy the parts from to create one thou?
Rich

Was designed on my car by Cornering Force in Harrogate so would speak to them if you was after one

 

[green]

@Tom Johnson did you find much difference between the stock roll bar and your custom one ? Can you adjust the stiffness ?

 

[Tom Johnson]

@Tom Johnson did you find much difference between the stock roll bar and your custom one ? Can you adjust the stiffness ?

Yes pal it can be adjusted by the blade.

 

[green]

That’s a nice bit of kit you have :up: I’ve not seen a blade type roll bar on standard-ish car before.
I like it! Thanks for sharing

 

[Tom Johnson]

That’s a nice bit of kit you have :up: I’ve not seen a blade type roll bar on standard-ish car before.
I like it! Thanks for sharing

Standard-ish :smile:
Another one on the rear pal

 

[JP83]

Standard-ish :smile:
Another one on the rear pal

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Epic tom. Do you get any glare from such a minimal dash?

 

[Tom Johnson]

Epic tom. Do you get any glare from such a minimal dash?

No pal none at all :up:

 

[Sonic Boom]

Really like them, tuning with ARB's is the way to go instead of having to go barmy on the spring poundage.
Can I ask what spring poundage you do run?
Cheers Rich

 

[Tom Johnson]

Really like them, tuning with ARB's is the way to go instead of having to go barmy on the spring poundage.
Can I ask what spring poundage you do run?
Cheers Rich

Been a while since it was all done and couldn't remember of the top of my head so just dug out the invoice

For the fronts it says: Eibach front springs 170-60-0080

Rears: Faulkner rear springs 9" 250lb x 1.9

Both with helper springs

 

[scotiamr2t]

@Tom Johnson that is surprisingly soft on the rear! The ARB must make a huge difference, would be interesting to know costs for such modifications

 

[Sonic Boom]

Ye that would be roughly 450lb Front and 250lb rear which is mega soft.
The front anti roll bar does look huge thou, but interesting to know what the actual stiffness is of each bar.
Rich

 

[Tom Johnson]

@Tom Johnson that is surprisingly soft on the rear! The ARB must make a huge difference, would be interesting to know costs for such modifications

Might make your eyes water pal, I know it did mine.
Obviously mine was the first one they had ever done so was design time in that as well.

 

[Akay]

Can confirm Toms car is epic in person!

 

[scotiamr2t]

the bit looks bad, although they have a cost of £550 for the ARB's. The main cost has been in fitting and setting up the suspenion

 

[Sam Linssner]

Might make your eyes water pal, I know it did mine.
Obviously mine was the first one they had ever done so was design time in that as well.

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Ouch 😂 Tom’s is probably the least standard Clio I have ever seen. Still want a front crash bar like yours for mine :wink:

 

[Tom Johnson]

Ouch 😂 Tom’s is probably the least standard Clio I have ever seen. Still want a front crash bar like yours for mine :wink:

Cheers mate.
😂 that was on top of the bill for the Quantum coilovers:grin: Haha.

I might have to look into making these front ends if there's a market for them

 

[steviekyle13793]

Let me be your guinea pig. I shall travel 😂

 

[Goddy]

Just thought I’d update the thread as I’ve now fitted the tow wires.

I bought eyelet / shackles that are probably overkill, but will keep for now. Fairly straightforward just drilled 16mm hole in chassis and then used two 3mm steel plates either side and bolted the whole thing together.

 

[BIFCAIDS]

You animal... could you not have done it another inch higher? lol